Author Topic: Refugio / Cisco (Read 35317 times)

TexDoc · « **on:** December 16, 2011, 03:40:09 PM »

Okay Dallas crew, you screwed this one guys. Look at rule 2-27-4-b.

Then look at the Refugio play at 6:10 in the 1st quarter. Oooopps!

Hank · « **Reply #1 on:** December 16, 2011, 03:51:01 PM »

Video?

TexDoc · « **Reply #2 on:** December 16, 2011, 03:54:43 PM »

We'll see if TXMike can get it posted. I could but lots of work.

Hank · « **Reply #3 on:** December 16, 2011, 04:08:42 PM »

Forgot to set the DVR. Watching the 3A game now. Argyle v Wimberley

Etref · « **Reply #4 on:** December 16, 2011, 04:15:59 PM »

Quote from: TexDoc on December 16, 2011, 03:40:09 PM

Okay Dallas crew, you screwed this one guys. Look at rule 2-27-4-b.

Then look at the Refugio play at 6:10 in the 1st quarter. Oooopps!

What happened?

TexDoc · « **Reply #5 on:** December 16, 2011, 04:27:36 PM »

Refugio comes up to the line and gets set, all linemen with hands on knees. Then they all stand up and face their sideline like they are looking for a signal from their sideline. While they are still facing their sideline, shoulders nowhere near parallel to the line of scrimmige, the ball is snapped to the QB about 5 yards behind LOS and no one moves but the wideout on Refugio's sideline, who streaks down the field and catches a pass for a long gain.

Etref · « **Reply #6 on:** December 16, 2011, 05:02:47 PM »

Wonder is this was covered in pre-game?

In addition to illegal formation, possible hide-out?

texref32 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 16, 2011, 05:26:29 PM »

If that is the only thing you got that we "screwed up" I'll take it. I hope you enjoyed WATCHING us on TV from the comfort of your couch!!

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I would like to thank the Ft. Worth Chapter for their hospitality!! You guys did a great job of hosting.

TxSkyBolt · « **Reply #8 on:** December 16, 2011, 05:45:01 PM »

Did they communicate with the sideline? If not, I don't think it's USC. Looked like every lineman except maybe the left guard had shoulders about 45 degrees. The receiver didn't have an advantage as the defender played him all the way. Not so sure about this one Doc.

Best regards,

Brad

TxSkyBolt · « **Reply #9 on:** December 16, 2011, 05:49:51 PM »

Upon further review. I didn't notice the split end to the L side. He was facing/standing 90 degrees to the LOS. Illegal formation.

Best regards,

Brad

TL551 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 16, 2011, 05:57:18 PM »

Upon further review, there was a flag on the play, just sayin.

TexDoc · « **Reply #11 on:** December 16, 2011, 06:02:40 PM »

Don't take offense anyone, I'm just bringing up a play that we all need to be aware of. I think this crew did a fine job. Please don't take this the wrong way!

DallasLJ · « **Reply #12 on:** December 16, 2011, 06:52:30 PM »

Quote from: TexDoc on December 16, 2011, 06:02:40 PM

Don't take offense anyone, I'm just bringing up a play that we all need to be aware of. I think this crew did a fine job. Please don't take this the wrong way!

Crew did a great job . . . but that was an illegal formation that was not called. Also probably should have been a FS or illegal formation on the 2 pt conversion in the middle of the 3rd quarter. When they came back from break, they tried to show that Refugio ran the play with 10 players because there was a late player coming on the field back around the 20 yard line. Either this late substitute is a FS, or, at the very least, he is the 5th man in the backfield. I re-ran the DVR and A lined up with 4 in the backfield in the box.

TXMike · « **Reply #13 on:** December 16, 2011, 07:18:15 PM »

I realize not everyine is as addicted to this stuff as most of us but what rock were you living under that you did not see this very same thing done in last year's 5A game and realize it was as illegal then as it was today. I don't see any flags but there was a crew discussion. If someone threw it but got overruled by someone else maybe we will hear abiut it

TL551 · « **Reply #14 on:** December 16, 2011, 07:53:33 PM »

The play was illegal, there was a flag, thats why there was a discussion after the play.

TXMike · « **Reply #15 on:** December 16, 2011, 07:55:44 PM »

Typically after an illegal play with a flag there is a penalty and an announcement of some kind. Did we just miss it?

TL551 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 16, 2011, 08:01:16 PM »

You're right, there usually is. Maybe he went with the "if I ignore it, it will just go away" philosophy.

TXMike · « **Reply #17 on:** December 16, 2011, 08:04:48 PM »

We are gonna add that philsophy to the statewide philsophy document next year

TxSkyBolt · « **Reply #18 on:** December 16, 2011, 08:05:38 PM »

RU sure there was a flag? No mention of it and no "wave off". I watched it several times and there was no indication of a flag

DallasLJ · « **Reply #19 on:** December 16, 2011, 08:10:22 PM »

Quote from: TxSkyBolt on December 16, 2011, 08:05:38 PM

RU sure there was a flag? No mention of it and no "wave off". I watched it several times and there was no indication of a flag

Watching the game there was a "crew conference" but no mention of a flag. I am sure they were discussing whether it was US, when it was really a formation problem.

TXMike · « **Reply #20 on:** December 16, 2011, 08:14:12 PM »

The bulletin from Redding makesit an uns conduct issue also

TL551 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 16, 2011, 08:17:39 PM »

I am 1000% sure there was a flag.

DallasLJ · « **Reply #22 on:** December 16, 2011, 08:18:52 PM »

Quote from: TXMike on December 16, 2011, 08:14:12 PM

The bulletin from Redding makesit an uns conduct issue also

Mike, this is different from the play you posted last week. No one moved during this play. No substitutes were used. No talking to the sidelines. Everyone just simply looked to the sideline. So, I can not go with a UNS here. Just a "quick snap" play.

DallasLJ · « **Reply #23 on:** December 16, 2011, 08:23:51 PM »

Quote from: TL551 on December 16, 2011, 08:17:39 PM

I am 1000% sure there was a flag.

I wasn't at the game, but just re-watched the DVR. No flag was mentioned by the announcers and none was waived off. There was a conference with everyone but the BJ, and then they simply got in position for the next play after giving Refugio the result of the play.

TxSkyBolt · « **Reply #24 on:** December 16, 2011, 08:27:46 PM »

Quote from: TL551 on December 16, 2011, 08:17:39 PM

I am 1000% sure there was a flag.

Can I assume you were in the game?

Author Topic: Refugio / Cisco (Read 35317 times)

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