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Offline azsteam

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Rules that coaches misunderstand
« on: January 05, 2012, 03:17:56 PM »
I'm asking for some help with a new project that I have been assign.  I have been asked to come up with a quiz of 50 multiple-choice questions to give to our area's coaches. 

Thanks for you help.

Offline TampaSteve

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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2012, 03:38:50 PM »
3 big ones come right to mind:
1 - on kicks/punts: center is protected from any and all contact.
2 - "he was out of the pocket"
3 - that personal fouls DONT carry an auto 1/10.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2012, 03:40:48 PM by TampaSteve »

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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2012, 04:18:57 PM »
Horesecollar
5 vs. 15 Facemask.  When in doubt 15.
Can't get back on an encroachment foul by D.
Offensive Facemask
Low blocking in general
Facepaint, armband, mouthpiece colors
Field markings (some schools have trouble with this)
Fair catch signal
Fumbles forward and on 4th down
What can be done with the ball by a holder
No tackle eligible
free kick out of bounds
Illegal formations and getting players inside the numbers
Restricted Area
Clipping vs. BiB

I think those are enough to keep you busy
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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2012, 04:36:39 PM »
"Dey broke duh huddle wif tway-ulv, dey broke duh huddle wif tway-ulv"

I'd just start with the Federation test and then give them their score immediately afterwards.

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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2012, 06:54:43 PM »
Breaking the huddle with 12 (although I know officials that believe this one as well)
Pass was uncatchable
Throwing the ball away from outside the pocket

(For that matter, almost any NCAA/FED rule difference)

False start/encroachment on a kickoff
PSK
KCI vs awarded fair catch
Numbering exception on kicking plays
What's legal on onside kicks (again, an NCAA/FED difference)

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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2012, 06:59:52 PM »
The ball goes back to where it was snapped on missed FG attempts outside the 20.  Had a coach lose his mind this year when we called it a TB and put his ball on the 20.
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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2012, 08:32:31 PM »
Basic spot enforcement on fouls by the offense that occur behind the LOS on passing (loose ball) plays.
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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2012, 08:42:23 PM »
Basic spot enforcement on fouls by the offense that occur behind the LOS on passing (loose ball) plays.

Even worse, enforcement for this same foul on running plays!

And fouls by the defense behind the LOS on running plays.

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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2012, 06:44:49 AM »
"Dey broke duh huddle wif tway-ulv, dey broke duh huddle wif tway-ulv"

I'd just start with the Federation test and then give them their score immediately afterwards.
Yeah, I would add this to my top 3 to make top 4.
You know, it may be best to do a "top 10" or so & just go over things, instead of doing a test that they don't want to take anyway and/or will maybe get 'shown up' as a result.

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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2012, 08:08:31 AM »
As an umpire, let me ask that you include low blocks, particularly talking about the free blocking zone and how there are two requirements - the zone itself AND the ball being in the zone.  Speak to the shotgun, the pistol, hand to hand snaps and quick pitches to a deep I-back and how each impacts the rule.

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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2012, 08:38:14 AM »
As an umpire, let me ask that you include low blocks, particularly talking about the free blocking zone and how there are two requirements - the zone itself AND the ball being in the zone.  Speak to the shotgun, the pistol, hand to hand snaps and quick pitches to a deep I-back and how each impacts the rule.
'Morning, Bus! We might also want to ask them if they know what this is:  sNiCkErS

(Sorry, couldn't resist).
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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2012, 09:42:04 AM »
Umpire food!

But actually, I am partial to Little Debbie's Zebra Cakes.


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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2012, 09:48:55 AM »
Little Debbie's: must be a Southerner. (heck I'm from TN so I can speak from expertise)
Preference here is for the Swiss Cake Rolls (which I call 'swirlys')

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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2012, 12:30:19 PM »
Before I gave up sugar, I always loved Little Debbies, especially the Christmas Tree Cakes during the holidays.  I still drool when I see them in the store.
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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2012, 01:08:46 PM »
Any rule/case book play that has the words "except" or "exception" in them. 

I'm compiling a list right now of every time these words appear in the Rule Book.  It's "scary"... :o

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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2012, 02:09:28 PM »
Any rule/case book play that has the words "except" or "exception" in them. 

I'm compiling a list right now of every time these words appear in the Rule Book.  It's "scary"... :o
If you think the Fed rules containing "except" or "exception" are scary, you will croak at the NCAA book. The words "except" or "exception" appear 182 times. Granted, some of those are in indexes, but still...
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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2012, 02:45:15 PM »
Little Debbie's: must be a Southerner. (heck I'm from TN so I can speak from expertise)
Preference here is for the Swiss Cake Rolls (which I call 'swirlys')
As an Umpire who moved from Georgia to New York City, my biggest challenges were USC's for language (is the f'word a verb or an adjective here?) and I had to learn what Yodels were.

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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2012, 03:12:42 PM »
Like you never heard that in Georgia?  Must not of worked Valdosta State.

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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2012, 03:28:40 PM »
Like you never heard that in Georgia?  Must not of worked Valdosta State.
Or Fort Valley State
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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2012, 03:40:26 PM »
Or Fort Valley State

Or any City of Atlanta school.

In reality, almost any high school.

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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2012, 08:57:39 PM »
I think most coaches only have problems understanding rules 1 thru 10.

This year we had a coach who could not understand that DPI was not a spot foul. He went nuts when we marked off 15 yards when the pass was 35 yards down field.

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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2012, 01:38:53 AM »
"Rules that coaches misunderstand?"

All of them.  ;)

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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2012, 09:10:55 AM »
A "cut" block IS NOT a "chop" block!

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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2012, 10:30:43 AM »
It's not a specific rule reference, but if possible you might want to try and explain that Officials are not "the enemy", that the main difference between a coaches perspective and an officials perspective is that, for the game to work, we MUST consider the interests of both teams equally.

Coaches and officials are different parts of the same effort to produce a successful game.  As different as Sales and Human Resources, we each have different roles in reaching the same objective, sometimes we provide valuable assistance to each other, sometimes we may seem to step on each other's toes but our objectives should be parallel and point to a similar goal.

You might also remind your coaches audience, that whomever and wherever the notion started that screaming and publicly demeaning an official, will ultimately benefit your position has about as much chance of helping you as screaming and publicly demeaning your spouse, and very often produces the exact same results.

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Re: Rules that coaches misunderstand
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2012, 01:17:22 PM »
You might also remind your coaches audience, that whomever and wherever the notion started that screaming and publicly demeaning an official, will ultimately benefit your position has about as much chance of helping you as screaming and publicly demeaning your spouse, and very often produces the exact same results.

Actually, it's the exact opposite.  If I scream and demean an official, you can bet I'm going to get screwed.