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Final Rules approved
« on: February 23, 2012, 03:04:47 PM »
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2012: NCAA FOOTBALL RULES COMMITTEE ACTION
Summary Report: Rules Changes For 2012
The NCAA Football Rules Committee in its annual meeting in Charlotte, NC,
on February 8, 2012, adopted these rules changes. Final approval was granted by
the Playing Rules Oversight Panel on February 21, 2012. These changes will be in
effect starting with the 2012 season.
1. KICKOFF
A. The kickoff will be at the 35‐yard line (unless relocated by a penalty). The free
kick following a safety will remain at the 20‐yard line.
B. After the ball has been made ready for play all players on the kicking team except
the kicker must be no more than five yards behind their restraining line. If one
player is more than five yards behind the restraining line and any other player kicks
the ball, it is a foul.
PENALTY—Illegal Formation. Five yards from the previous spot and re‐kick, or five
yards from the spot where the dead ball belongs to the receiving team.
**NOTE: By interpretation, a player is legal when both feet are either on or beyond
the line five yards behind the restraining line (i.e. the 30‐yard line in typical
situations).
C. A player of the receiving team who is in position to receive the ball has the same
kick‐catch and fair‐catch protection whether the ball is kicked directly off the tee or
is immediately driven to the ground, strikes the ground once and goes into the air in
the manner of the ball kicked directly off the tee.
D. If a free kick results in a touchback the ball will belong to the receiving team at its
25‐yard line. On all other touchbacks the ball will be placed at the 20‐yard line.
2. BLOCKING BELOW THE WAIST
Team A
A. Before a change of team possession any Team A player who is beyond the neutral
zone may not block below the waist toward his own goal line. When in question the
block is directed toward his goal line.
B. The following players of Team A are restricted with regard to blocking below
the waist:
1. A lineman who at the snap is more than seven yards from the
middle lineman of the offensive formation.
2. A back who at the snap is aligned with the frame of his body
completely outside the tackle box or completely outside the frame of
the body of the second lineman from the snapper in either direction
toward a sideline.
3. A back who is in motion at the snap and had been outside the area
in B‐2 any time after the ball was ready for play and before the snap.
All other players are unrestricted. In particular, after the ball is ready for play a
player who is in motion at the snap and is never outside the area in B‐2 before the
snap is unrestricted.
C. Inside the area in B‐2 a restricted player may not block below the waist against
any opponent.
D. Outside this area a restricted player may not block below the waist in a direction
away from his adjacent sideline. He may block below the waist along the northsouth
line or toward his adjacent sideline (subject to the restrictions in Paragraph
A).
Team B
Blocking below the waist by players of Team B before a change of team
possession is allowed only within the area defined by lines parallel to the goal line
five yards beyond and behind the neutral zone extended to the sidelines. Blocking
below the waist by players of Team B outside this zone is illegal.
NOTE: Blocking below the waist remains illegal (except against the ball carrier):
 By Team B against a player behind the neutral zone in position to
receive a backward pass.
 By Team B against a player eligible to receive a legal forward pass
beyond the neutral zone.
 By any player during a down in which there is a free kick or a
scrimmage kick.
 By any player after a change of team possession.
3. HELMET COMES OFF
A. If during the down a player’s helmet comes completely off, other than as the
direct result of a foul by an opponent, the player must leave the game for the next
down. The game clock will stop at the end of the down. When the helmet coming
off is the only reason for stopping the clock the following conditions apply:
1. With one minute or more remaining in either half the game clock
will stop and will start on the referee’s signal. The play clock will be
set at 25 seconds if the player is on offense and at 40 seconds if the
player is on defense.
2. If there is less than one minute in the half the game clock will stop
and the opponent has the option of a 10‐second runoff. The play clock
will be set at 25 seconds and the game clock will start on the referee’s
signal. If a timeout is available the 10‐second runoff may be avoided
by the use of the timeout.
B. If the ball carrier’s helmet comes off the ball is dead (Rule 4‐1‐3‐q). If it is a
player other the ball carrier the ball remains alive, but he must not continue to
participate in the play beyond the immediate action in which he is engaged.
Prolonged participation is a personal foul. Such a player by definition is a player
obviously out of the play (Rule 9‐1‐12‐b).
PENALTY—15 yards. Fouls by Team B include an automatic first down.
C. A player who intentionally removes his helmet during the down commits a foul
for unsportsmanlike conduct.
PENALTY‐‐‐15 yards. Fouls by Team B include an automatic first down.
4. DEFENSIVE TEAM PLAYER LEAPING THE SHIELD ON A PUNT
A Team B player may not attempt to block a punt by leaving his feet in an
attempt to jump over a Team A player behind the neutral zone inside the tackle box.
It is not a foul if the player jumps straight up without attempting to jump over the
opponent. It is also not a foul if the player jumps through the gap between two
players.
PERSONAL FOUL: 15 yards, previous spot and automatic first down.
5. INTERFERENCE WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO CATCH A KICK
The following sentence will be added to Rule 6‐4‐1 to further protect the
receiver of a kick:
Before the receiver touches the ball, if a member of the kicking team
enters the area defined by the width of the receiver’s shoulders and
extending one yard in front of him, it is a foul.
PENALTY—Receiving team’s ball, first down, 15 yards from the spot of the foul. For
a foul behind the receiver’s goal line: award a touchback plus 15 yards from the
succeeding spot. Flagrant offenders shall be disqualified.

cincybearcat

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Re: Final Rules approved
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2012, 03:08:16 PM »
A couple of thoughts:

 - Am i reading this correctly that B receive's kick catch protection on-side kick attempt kicked into the ground?

- if it is a foul for a player who has lost his helment to continue in the play...shouldn't it be a foul if a member of another team "seeks him out" after he looses his helmet?

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Re: Final Rules approved
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2012, 03:27:10 PM »
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- Am i reading this correctly that B receive's kick catch protection on-side kick attempt kicked into the ground?
I think so.

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- if it is a foul for a player who has lost his helment to continue in the play...shouldn't it be a foul if a member of another team "seeks him out" after he looses his helmet?
It is- that's what they are getting at with "Such a player by definition is a player obviously out of the play (Rule 9‐1‐12‐b)."

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Re: Final Rules approved
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2012, 03:37:08 PM »
I think so.
It is- that's what they are getting at with "Such a player by definition is a player obviously out of the play (Rule 9‐1‐12‐b)."

Is the penalty for the player who plays without a helmet or the other team who engages him?

Seems the penalty could be for either or both.

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Re: Final Rules approved
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2012, 04:44:43 PM »
A couple of thoughts:

 - Am i reading this correctly that B receive's kick catch protection on-side kick attempt kicked into the ground?


This is to help cover those kicks where both players and officials were unsure if the ball hit the ground or not.  Protection is only extended if the ball hits the ground just once.  Kicking coaches will be upset with this because some of those kickers have mastered that one hop "pooch" kick.  This could be another way to get a handle on all those early blocks that team A has been getting away with.  Maybe the rulemakers are thinking if officials are not flagging the early blocking, we'll at least call the Interference.

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Final Rules approved
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2012, 06:28:21 PM »
Don't see how this changes early blocking


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Re: Final Rules approved
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2012, 08:37:04 PM »
This is to help cover those kicks where both players and officials were unsure if the ball hit the ground or not.

Any official that can't tell if a kick hit the ground and bounced up has NO business being on the field.  It is an OBVIOUS motion and result, and the flight of the ball is radically different if it bounces or is pooched.

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Kicking coaches will be upset with this 

Damn right!

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because some of those kickers have mastered that one hop "pooch" kick.

What they do is not a pooch kick.  They slam the ball down into the ground and create a high bounce.  A pooch kick does not bounce.  A pooch kick will "float".  An onside kick that his kicked directly into the ground has a totally different ball motion.

What they have done is said the kickers are too good, so we are going to punish them.  Why not make a rule that says QBs can't throw the ball more than 20 yards in the air, or DBs can't play if they can run under a 4.4 40?  This is the equivalent.


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This could be another way to get a handle on all those early blocks that team A has been getting away with.  Maybe the rulemakers are thinking if officials are not flagging the early blocking, we'll at least call the Interference.

This sounds dangerously close to: the officials can't call the rules the way they are written, so we will make it harder on the kickers in order to help the officials.

Maybe official's education was the answer over punishing kickers.

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Re: Final Rules approved
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2012, 08:08:37 AM »
Any official that can't tell if a kick hit the ground and bounced up has NO business being on the field.  It is an OBVIOUS motion and result, and the flight of the ball is radically different if it bounces or is pooched.

Damn right!

What they do is not a pooch kick.  They slam the ball down into the ground and create a high bounce.  A pooch kick does not bounce.  A pooch kick will "float".  An onside kick that his kicked directly into the ground has a totally different ball motion.

What they have done is said the kickers are too good, so we are going to punish them.  Why not make a rule that says QBs can't throw the ball more than 20 yards in the air, or DBs can't play if they can run under a 4.4 40?  This is the equivalent.


This sounds dangerously close to: the officials can't call the rules the way they are written, so we will make it harder on the kickers in order to help the officials.

Maybe official's education was the answer over punishing kickers.

I believe this is a safety issue pure and simple. I'm not convinced that this has anything to do with the difficulty of officiating the on-side kick. If it did they would have tinkered with the entirety of the on-side kick scenario. i.e. the one that rolls along the ground with a wave of kickers descending on the receivers. I have "rarely" seen this type kick mis-called as far as whether it initially hit the ground, so I don't believe it has to do with judgement on whether it hit the ground. Giving protection to a receiver of a kick that has initially hit the ground is a safety issue. Standing beneath a grounded kick with 11 players hell bent on destroying him is not a place most players want to be. Early blocking is still an issue that will have to be officiated - just not against a person positioned to receive the free kick.
Are they taking away a great kickers weapon - YES, and that is harsh. But this was not because of difficult/poor officiating but because they want to provide protection for a defenseless player. IMHO ^talk
« Last Edit: February 24, 2012, 05:26:10 PM by RedTD »

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Re: Final Rules approved
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2012, 09:41:41 AM »
I believe this is a safety issue pure and simple. I'm not convinced that this has anything to do with the difficulty with officiating the on-side kick.

I agree with RedTD here. Additionally, when the skills change that defeat the intent of the exiting rules, the rules need to be changed.  It was never intended that a kick receiver standing under a ball that's 1 yard beyond the restraining line would be fair game while he's waiting for a kick to come down.  The fact that today's kickers have fine tuned that type of bounce kick so well puts that receiver's safety in jeopardy.  Sorry Blue, but I agree that this one is a safety issue and is a reasonable change.
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Re: Final Rules approved
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2012, 10:48:04 AM »
Has there been any research targeted towards the incidence of injuries sustained from onside kick plays?

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Re: Final Rules approved
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2012, 12:31:08 PM »

What they have done is said the kickers are too good, so we are going to punish them. 


Yupp, but that's not novel.  Don't you remember when free kicks were from the A-40?  And, after an untouched, unsuccessful field goal attempt, Team B got the ball at the spot where the kick actually ended?

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Re: Final Rules approved
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2012, 11:59:14 PM »
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Protection is only extended if the ball hits the ground just once.

It would have to be more than once since its the second time the ball hits the ground that propels it high in the air.

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Re: Final Rules approved
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2012, 06:19:30 AM »
It would have to be more than once since its the second time the ball hits the ground that propels it high in the air.

Incorrect. The 'bounce' in question is the one that occurs when the ball is driven directly into the ground from the kick, and the ball bounces high from that initial impact with the ground. When he ball thereafter strikes the ground, a fair catch is no longer possible.

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Re: Final Rules approved
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2012, 07:40:54 AM »
It would have to be more than once since its the second time the ball hits the ground that propels it high in the air.

There are different types of onside kicks.  The one you are describing is hit more longitudnally, bounces once on a small bounce, and then the second one bounces high.  You have less control over the bounce, and the entire play is "stretched".

The kick that has been effectively outlawed is done differently.  The kicker's body is over (even past) the ball, and the ball is drilled directyly down into the ground.  It takes one very high bounce and typically doesn't travel as far toward the sideline as the first kick described.