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2012 Rule Changes - Blocking Below Waist - Play Situations
« on: March 21, 2012, 04:22:42 AM »
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2012: RULES CHANGES—PLAY SITUATIONS BLOCKING BELOW THE WAIST
1. Third and seven at the A-30. The ball is at the left hash mark. Back A22 is split outside the tackle box to his left, and B40 moves out to cover him. The handoff goes to back A44 who runs up the middle and is tackled at the A-45. As the play develops A22 blocks B40 below the waist at the A-35. The direction of his block is (a) straight ahead along the north-south line; (b) directly toward the sideline to A22’s left; (c) off the north-south line at a slight forward angle toward the sideline to his right. RULING: Because of his position A22 is restricted in how he may legally block below the waist. His adjacent sideline is to his left. (a) Legal block, because it is forward along the north- south line. (b) Legal block, because it is toward his adjacent sideline. (c) Foul, illegal block below the waist. The block is directed toward the non-adjacent sideline. Fifteen yards at the spot of the foul.

2. Third and seven at the A-30. The ball is at the left hash mark. Back A22 is lined up inside the tackle box just behind the right tackle. Tight end A88 is on the line six yards to the left of the snapper in a balanced-line formation. The handoff goes to back A44 who runs up the middle and is tackled at the A-45. As the play develops A22 blocks B40 below the waist at the A-35 and A88 blocks B55 below the waist at the A-40. RULING: These blocks are legal as long as they are not toward Team A’s goal line because at the snap both A22 and A88 are positioned such that they are not restricted.

3. Third and seven at the A-30. The ball is at the left hash mark. Back A22 is split outside the tackle box to his left, and B40 moves out to cover him. The handoff goes to back A44 who sweeps around the right end and is tackled at the B-45. As the play develops B40 runs to his left to follow the play and A22 chases him. At the A-45 beyond the right hash mark A22 overtakes B40 and blocks him below the waist at the side or front. The direction of this block is (a) toward the left sideline; (b) directly along the north-south line; (c) slightly off the north-south line toward the right sideline. In each case the block is NOT directed toward Team A’s goal line. RULING: Because of his position A22 is restricted in how he may legally block below the waist. His adjacent sideline is to his left. (a) Legal block, because it is toward A22’s adjacent sideline. (b) Legal block, because it is along the north-south line. (c) Foul, illegal block below the waist. The block is directed toward the non-adjacent sideline. Fifteen yards at the spot of the foul.

4. Third and seven at the A-30. Split end A88 is on his scrimmage line wide to the right side, eight yards from the middle lineman. During a running play A88 blocks below the waist against B66, the block directed toward A88’s left. This block occurs (a) at the A- 39; (b) at the A-41. RULING: (a) and (b) Foul, illegal block below the waist. Because of his position at the snap A88 is restricted in blocking below the waist. His adjacent sideline is to his right. Since in each case the block is directed away from his adjacent sideline, it is illegal.

5. Back A37 is lined up directly behind the snapper. He starts in motion to his right and at the snap is inside the tackle box and directly behind the right guard. A37 leads the play around right end as the quarterback keeps on a sweep to the right. As the play develops A37 goes beyond the neutral zone and blocks below the waist against an opponent, the direction of the block being along the north-south line and toward Team A’s goal line. RULING: Illegal block below the waist. Although A37’s block is north- south, it is directed toward his goal line.

6. Third and seven at the A-30. Team A is in a balanced-line formation with the ball at the left hash mark. Back A22 sets up outside the tackle box to the left. As quarterback A11 under center begins to call signals A22 starts in motion to his right. At the snap A22 is five yards directly behind the left guard and serves as A11’s lead blocker on a sweep to the right. At the A-31 A22 blocks below the waist against defensive end B99; the direction of the block is toward the right sideline. RULING: Foul, illegal block below the waist. Because A22 is in motion at the snap he is restricted in blocking below the waist, even though he is inside the tackle box. His adjacent sideline is to his left (his outside sideline at the snap) and his low block is made toward the right sideline.

7. Defensive end B89 is two yards beyond the neutral zone when he blocks below the waist against an opponent who is the lead blocker on a sweep play. RULING: Legal block. Had B89 executed this same block more than five yards beyond or behind the neutral zone, it would be illegal.

8. Third and seven at the A-30. Back A44 is lined up inside the tackle box behind the left tackle and goes in motion to his right. At the snap he has not left the tackle box and is directly behind the left guard. He blocks below the waist against an opponent at the A- 28, the block being directed toward the sideline to the right of the formation. RULING: Legal play. Although the block is to A44’s non-adjacent sideline it is legal because A44 is not restricted from blocking below the waist.
 
9. Third and seven at the A-30. Back A40 enters the game after the ball is made ready for play and sets up behind the left tackle inside the tackle box. After being set for one second, A40 goes in motion to his right. At the snap he has not left the tackle box and is directly behind the right guard. He blocks below the waist against an opponent at the A- 28 (a) toward his right sideline; (b) toward his left sideline; (c) straight ahead on a north/south line. RULING: (a), (b), and (c). Legal blocks. While technically A40 was outside the tackle box upon entering the game after the ball became ready for play, he satisfies the spirit of the rule for being unrestricted by always remaining inside the tackle box after coming to a set position initially.

10. Third and seven at the A-30. Back A40 enters the game after the ball is made ready for play and sets up as a wingback, two yards outside the tight end to the left of the formation. After coming to a set position, as the quarterback is calling signals A40 slides into the tackle box and either runs in place or re-sets behind the left tackle to help with an apparent blitz. He then blocks below the waist at the A-28 (a) toward his right sideline; (b) toward his left sideline; (c) straight ahead on a north/south line. RULING: (a), (b) and (c). These blocks are all illegal, as A40 is restricted by having been outside the area and thus may not block below the waist inside this area.

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Re: 2012 Rule Changes - Blocking Below Waist - Play Situations
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2012, 08:08:16 AM »
#9 answers my question. 

While technically A40 was outside the tackle box upon entering the game after the ball became ready for play, he satisfies the spirit of the rule for being unrestricted by always remaining inside the tackle box after coming to a set position initially.

Sounds like their original set position defines their restriction.  Not sure where that RFP idea came from.

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Re: 2012 Rule Changes - Blocking Below Waist - Play Situations
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2012, 10:57:31 AM »
#10 has me confused.

If A40 is running in place, then I agree illegal in (a), (b), (c).

However, if A40 re-sets prior to the snap, how is he then restricted?  He meets none of the criteria in the new 9-1-6-2.  He's not a lineman (a), he's not outside the tackle box (b), and although he was outside the tackle box at one time, he's not in motion at the snap (c)?

2.  Before  a  change  of  team  possession  the  following  players  of  Team  A  are restricted with regard to blocking below the waist:

a.  A  lineman  more  than  seven  yards  from  the  middle  lineman  of  the offensive formation at the snap.
 
b.  A  back  aligned  at  the  snap  with  the  frame  of  his  body  completely outside the tackle box or completely outside the frame of the body of the  second  lineman  from  the  snapper  in  either  direction  toward  a sideline.
 
c.  A  back  who  is  in  motion  at  the  snap  and  was  outside  the  area  in  b (above) any time after the ball was ready for play and before the snap.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2012, 11:00:26 AM by LJ Silver »

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Re: 2012 Rule Changes - Blocking Below Waist - Play Situations
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2012, 11:32:17 AM »
#10 has me confused.

If A40 is running in place, then I agree illegal in (a), (b), (c).

However, if A40 re-sets prior to the snap, how is he then restricted?  He meets none of the criteria in the new 9-1-6-2.  He's not a lineman (a), he's not outside the tackle box (b), and although he was outside the tackle box at one time, he's not in motion at the snap (c)?

2.  Before  a  change  of  team  possession  the  following  players  of  Team  A  are restricted with regard to blocking below the waist:

a.  A  lineman  more  than  seven  yards  from  the  middle  lineman  of  the offensive formation at the snap.
 
b.  A  back  aligned  at  the  snap  with  the  frame  of  his  body  completely outside the tackle box or completely outside the frame of the body of the  second  lineman  from  the  snapper  in  either  direction  toward  a sideline.
 
c.  A  back  who  is  in  motion  at  the  snap  and  was  outside  the  area  in  b (above) any time after the ball was ready for play and before the snap.


When he first got 'set,' he was outside the tackle box. That restricts him for the entire down, even if he re-positions himself and sets within the tackle box.
Although not specifically covered in these plays, an entering substitute that doesn't stop would be considered restricted, even if he was in the tackle box at the snap. But, it appears that he is being given one opportunity to be unrestricted, by going directly from the sideline to the tackle box (without stopping) and getting set. If he is still in the TB at the snap, stationary or in motion, he is unresrticted.

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Re: 2012 Rule Changes - Blocking Below Waist - Play Situations
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2012, 11:41:15 AM »
So we're going to need to keep careful track of those players that are lined up in restricted or unrestricted positions at the first set and then do a 4 or 5 player shift and reset prior to the snap.  That could get challenging when we've got one of those teams that utilizes multiple player shifts prior to most every play.
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2012, 01:08:11 PM »
So we're going to need to keep careful track of those players that are lined up in restricted or unrestricted positions at the first set and then do a 4 or 5 player shift and reset prior to the snap.  That could get challenging when we've got one of those teams that utilizes multiple player shifts prior to most every play.

Yep. Once a previously unrestricted back gets outside the TB, he becomes restricted and can not become unrestricted, if he is a still a back at the snap.
But, as currently witten, he could become a lineman within 7 yards of middle lineman and have all of the privileges thereunto appertaining. (How's that for some legalese?)
I don't know that this is a problem, from the perspective of how they want the game to be played. It certainly has the potential to be very difficult to officiate. But, it will probably turn into another 'non issue.'

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Re: 2012 Rule Changes - Blocking Below Waist - Play Situations
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2012, 01:17:13 PM »
It's not a great rule.

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Re: 2012 Rule Changes - Blocking Below Waist - Play Situations
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2012, 01:39:02 PM »
When he first got 'set,' he was outside the tackle box. That restricts him for the entire down, even if he re-positions himself and sets within the tackle box.
Although not specifically covered in these plays, an entering substitute that doesn't stop would be considered restricted, even if he was in the tackle box at the snap. But, it appears that he is being given one opportunity to be unrestricted, by going directly from the sideline to the tackle box (without stopping) and getting set. If he is still in the TB at the snap, stationary or in motion, he is unresrticted.

I understand that's what RR is implying, I'm just saying there's nothing in the rule as written that supports making A40 restricted, regardless of where he originally got 'set'. 

There are 3 specific ways to make a Team A player restricted (see 9-1-6-2-a,b,c), and a back that is set inside the tackle box at the snap doesn't meet any of them.  All other Team A players are unrestricted via 9-1-6-4.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2012, 03:08:43 PM »
I understand that's what RR is implying, ...

He's not implying - he's interpreting. That makes it official. When a sub comes from the team area, he can become unrestricted if his first 'stop' is within the TB, and he doesn't leave the TB before the snap (unless he moves onto the line and is within 7 yards of the ML at the snap, as I mentioned).


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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2012, 06:52:41 PM »

Although not specifically covered in these plays, an entering substitute that doesn't stop would be considered restricted, even if he was in the tackle box at the snap.

In that scenario, wouldn't Team A be guilty of a false start, dead ball foul at the snap?  That would render restricted vs unrestricted irrelevant.

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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2012, 07:25:40 PM »
In that scenario, wouldn't Team A be guilty of a false start, dead ball foul at the snap?  That would render restricted vs unrestricted irrelevant.

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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2012, 07:59:12 PM »

He's not implying - he's interpreting.


So we are to interpret the word "and" in 9-1-6-2-c to mean "or"?

Guess I'm confused too.

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Re: 2012 Rule Changes - Blocking Below Waist - Play Situations
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2012, 06:24:51 AM »
#10 now says:

10. Third and seven at the A-30. Back A40 enters the game after the ball is made ready for play and sets up as a wingback, two yards outside the tight end to the left of the formation. After coming to a set position, as the quarterback is calling signals A40 slides into the tackle box resets behind the left tackle to help with an apparent blitz. He then blocks below the waist at the A-28 (a) toward his right sideline; (b) toward his left sideline; (c) straight ahead on a north/south line. RULING: (a), (b) and (c). These blocks are all legal, as A40 is unrestricted.

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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2012, 06:54:55 AM »
Apparently, if a player initially sets up (stationary) outside the tackle box, then moves inside the TB and stops, he is unrestricted. So, it would appear that the language about never being outside the tackle box applies only to a player in motion.
That's what this says to me. Y'all?