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Re: Jewelry - Earrings
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2012, 11:07:38 AM »
Reading through all of these posts reminds me of the quote pounded into my head during my first few days of Officer Training.. and I think it is far reaching and covers almost every level of interaction on the field.

"No man is fit to command another, that cannot command himself"

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Re: Jewelry - Earrings
« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2012, 11:07:46 AM »
"For the the official, it's an avocation.  Putting food on the table and paying the mortage depend on the outcome of a series of games, so obviously he is vested in the outcome, while the official is not."

Atlanta Blue, we are talking high school football. Give us a break. Coaches are teachers and that is their avocation. Please don't allow excuses for people who who do not conduct themselves within the rules of the sport.
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Re: Jewelry - Earrings
« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2012, 12:59:56 PM »
"For the the official, it's an avocation.  Putting food on the table and paying the mortage depend on the outcome of a series of games, so obviously he is vested in the outcome, while the official is not."

Nor should he (the official) be.  As Abe Lemons said: "the problem with officials is that they don't care who wins..."

Atlanta Blue, we are talking high school football. Give us a break. Coaches are teachers and that is their avocation. Please don't allow excuses for people who who do not conduct themselves within the rules of the sport.

I only wish they were required to be "teachers" - in every sense of the word.  These days, too many coaches leave "acceptable behavior" at the the classroom door; and a growing percentage of coaches (for many, including financial, reasons) are not educators or are never in the building (other than the locker room).  That's NOT meant as an indictment of all "non-teachers" who coach.  Is that pressure to win?  Probably; but that is no excuse for acting poorly (for which we have remedies). But, similarly, AB has a point in that EVERY PARTICIPANT deserves his/her respect.  Making a coach an adversary isn't going to make your evening go any better.  Arrogance is just stupid!

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Re: Jewelry - Earrings
« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2012, 01:44:19 PM »
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Coaches are teachers

In most instances, true.  However many are hired for their skill and success as coaches, not because they are the best chemistry instructor in the state.  For some, their jobs are truly on the line.  Our local head coach's salary is supplemented for "mowing the field" even though we've had turf since 2008.

It boils down to this, neither party needs to act like an IDIOT, but circumstances sometimes get the best of any of us.  Sadly, poor behavior is tolerated more readily from coaches.  Officials are expected to be the "better man".

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Re: Jewelry - Earrings
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2012, 07:19:45 AM »
In any discussion on the football field, there must be at least one adult.  Our job as officials is to make sure that we're the one.

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Re: Jewelry - Earrings
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2012, 09:19:47 AM »
Atlanta Blue, we are talking high school football. Give us a break. Coaches are teachers and that is their avocation. Please don't allow excuses for people who who do not conduct themselves within the rules of the sport.

In most major programs today, the head coach is rarely a teacher.  If he is, he was hired as a football coach first, and they then found him a teaching spot.  Even on our staff, the assistants who are teachers, took the job as football coaches, and if they weren't coaches, they would not be there.

And if that head coach loses his coaching job, he also loses his teaching job.  They days of a teacher taking on the extra responsibility of being the head football coach are gone, at least in any major program.

And that still doesn't give ANY coach the right to be a complete jackass, I'm not excusing that.  I am offering a view point from that side of the sideline that explains some of the mentality.  I've worked both sides of the line, umpiring D1 baseball, and coaching HS football.  The mentality of the two is VERY different, and yes, I expect officials to maintain their cool even of coaches don't.  I expect if I'm the coach, and I expect it from myself if I'm the umpire.