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DPI Mich vs Ala?
« on: September 02, 2012, 07:58:20 AM »
Hopefully someone can post video of the play for discussion, but I'm not sure the shove was legal.

Thoughts?

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Re: DPI Mich vs Ala?
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2012, 08:11:09 AM »
Quarter and approx time?

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Re: DPI Mich vs Ala?
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2012, 07:30:28 PM »
About 3:00 left in 1st quarter.

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Re: DPI Mich vs Ala?
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2012, 09:23:22 PM »
We report...you decide....the video

http://youtu.be/_ILp5atfF8A

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Re: DPI Mich vs Ala?
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2012, 09:36:20 PM »
Shove is from the front, in bounds, before the receiver has passed the defender, and, as best as I can tell, before the ball is thrown.

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Re: DPI Mich vs Ala?
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2012, 09:42:13 PM »
Isn't the defender prevented from this type of contact when receiver occupies same yard line as him?

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Re: DPI Mich vs Ala?
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2012, 09:47:27 PM »
Shove is from the front, in bounds, before the receiver has passed the defender, and, as best as I can tell, before the ball is thrown.
From this video. you really don't know if the ball has been thrown yet when the contact occurs.
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Re: DPI Mich vs Ala?
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2012, 09:51:20 PM »
My understanding is that once the receiver is even with the defender he cannot be interfered with.

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Re: DPI Mich vs Ala?
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2012, 11:57:34 PM »
Isn't the defender prevented from this type of contact when receiver occupies same yard line as him?

At full speed, I couldn't tell if he was even yet, or not.

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Re: DPI Mich vs Ala?
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2012, 01:32:56 PM »
Very tough call at full speed but breaking it down by frame, Team A player beats his man with a out-and-up move and when defender realizes he's beat clean gives him the stiff arm to the chest when he's directly beside him.  They're both on the same yard line and the receiver is actually in no position to be able to block the defender.

This one could probably have drawn a flag and been considered a correct call but again watching at full speed it's a tough one.
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Re: DPI Mich vs Ala?
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2012, 04:10:04 PM »
If you call this foul, what's the announcement? Holding? Illegal use of hands? Illegal Block?

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Re: DPI Mich vs Ala?
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2012, 04:11:03 PM »
If you call this foul, what's the announcement? Holding? Illegal use of hands? Illegal Block?
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Re: DPI Mich vs Ala?
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2012, 04:58:30 PM »
If you call this foul, what's the announcement? Holding? Illegal use of hands? Illegal Block?

If the contact occurred before the ball was thrown and was deemed illegal per rule 9-3-4-c the penalty would be Illegal Use of Hands by the Defense, 10 yards.
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