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2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« on: January 22, 2013, 11:14:10 AM »
Has anyone heard anything yet regarding the NFHS 2013 football rules changes? The rules committee met this past weekend.

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Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2013, 12:28:18 PM »
Official notice usually posts around Feb 15, but would love to hear any inside info.

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Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2013, 12:52:19 PM »
Based on my memory of the survey, nothing looked too drastic they were considering to review.

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Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2013, 04:06:00 PM »
Last year's press release went out on 2/9.

I don't forsee any earth shattering revisions.

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Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2013, 06:13:33 PM »
The Fed is notorious for keeping things close to the vest until the press release. As alluded to by others, I would not expect a peep from them until at least the second week of February.
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Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2013, 10:35:12 AM »
REPLY: The survey isn't the only vehicle for getting proposals. That's only the Fed's way of determininig what (if any) proposals they might want to make. But member states also make proposals using input from coaches, and mostly officials. Those make up most of the docket considered each January.
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Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2013, 09:31:58 PM »
Last year's press release went out on 2/9.

I don't forsee any earth shattering revisions.
One rumor I've heard is pretty earth shattering and illogical in my opinion.

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Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2013, 09:55:56 PM »
One rumor I've heard is pretty earth shattering and illogical in my opinion.
Elaborate?
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Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2013, 07:38:45 AM »
Let me guess:  No BBW unless the QB is under center?

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Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2013, 07:50:35 AM »
Let me guess:  No BBW unless the QB is under center?
I may be wrong but I don't think they touched the FBZ rules.
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Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2013, 08:55:09 AM »
That was one of the questions on the survey.  Don't know if it will pass.  I voted yes.  Eliminates the "was the ball still in the zone" argument.

I wouldn't call it earth shattering nor illogical.

Personally, if we're all about safety of the athlete, then all BBW would be eliminated.

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Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2013, 09:41:28 AM »
Let me guess:  No BBW unless the QB is under center?

No, but in typical FED fashion, they missed a layup.  Changed one thing that needed changing but changed something else along with it that will have everybody up in arms.  Just wait.  haha

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« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2013, 11:40:27 AM »
No, but in typical FED fashion, they missed a layup.  Changed one thing that needed changing but changed something else along with it that will have everybody up in arms.  Just wait.  haha
Bingo. Bad compromise and illogical. Maybe the rumor isn't true or the editorial committee will do the right thing.

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Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2013, 05:41:47 PM »
Elaborate?

I heard they pretty much jacked up this whole OPI/DPI thing.  Anybody willing to confirm?

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Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2013, 07:06:30 PM »
I heard they pretty much jacked up this whole OPI/DPI thing.  Anybody willing to confirm?
If they finally removed LOD for OPI, I'll drink to that!
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Re: Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2013, 10:02:41 PM »
If they finally removed LOD for OPI, I'll drink to that!
Very warm. What ridiculous option do you think they would use as a compromise?

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« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2013, 10:19:29 PM »
Very warm. What ridiculous option do you think they would use as a compromise?

Perhaps they did something so incredibly stupid like removing the auto first down on DPI?  Please tell me I'm wrong.  hEaDbAnG hEaDbAnG hEaDbAnG

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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2013, 10:47:17 PM »
Perhaps they did something so incredibly stupid like removing the auto first down on DPI?  Please tell me I'm wrong.  hEaDbAnG hEaDbAnG hEaDbAnG
...or keep the automatic first down but reduce the distance portion to 5 or 10 yards. If that's a change, I feel sorry for back judges.
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Re: Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2013, 09:12:16 AM »
Please tell me I'm wrong.

I would be lying if I did.

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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2013, 10:39:26 AM »
Perhaps they did something so incredibly stupid like removing the auto first down on DPI?  Please tell me I'm wrong.  hEaDbAnG hEaDbAnG hEaDbAnG
That's what I'm hearing.  Again...rumor no fact.  I'm anxious to see the response if true.

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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2013, 01:10:08 PM »
That's what I'm hearing.  Again...rumor no fact.  I'm anxious to see the response if true.
If true, let the muggings begin.
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Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2013, 10:42:06 AM »
What about no LOD on OPI and AFD at the spot for DPI less than 15 yds from LOS with 15 + AFD for DPI beyond 15 yds? What would be the rationale for eliminating the AFD provision?

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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2013, 11:22:24 AM »
That's what I'm hearing.  Again...rumor no fact.  I'm anxious to see the response if true.

Holy crap. 

I worked mostly B/F/S this season.  If that's the case, I want to move to umpire this year. 

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Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2013, 02:05:35 PM »
Not sure why the worry.  95% of the time, a 15 yard DPI is going to be a first down anyway.  There are two situations where it will be an issue: more than 15 yards to gain to reach the LTG, and DPI in the end zone when the goal line if the LTG.

On the first, you are still going to get to repeat the down, and there are VERY few 15+ yard passes on long yardage situations anyway.  In HS football, a completion where the catch is more than 15 yards downfield is still the minority of pass plays, so on DPI, the offense is still going to get 15 yards, and they are going to get the down again.  They aren't going to be that upset.

The one tricky one is going to be 3rd and less than 10 with the goal line the LTG.  In those cases, it may actually be worth the DPI if there is a good chance the ball will be caught.

But for the vast majority of the time, this is a non-issue.

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Re: 2013 NFHS Footbll Rules Changes
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2013, 07:21:03 PM »

....The one tricky one is going to be 3rd and less than 10 with the goal line the LTG.  In those cases, it may actually be worth the DPI if there is a good chance the ball will be caught....
...like I said, let the muggings begin!
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