RefStripes.com

Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: foureyedzebra on May 01, 2011, 12:22:41 AM

Title: Fumble or Forward Progress?
Post by: foureyedzebra on May 01, 2011, 12:22:41 AM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkCviTVcIs8

[yt=425,350]AkCviTVcIs8[/yt]
Title: Re: Fumble or Forward Progress?
Post by: NVFOA_Ump on May 01, 2011, 05:38:24 AM: Forward progress. Runner is clearly under the control of the defense (4-5 of them), and not just stopped but actually moving backward.
Title: Re: Fumble or Forward Progress?
Post by: El Macman on May 01, 2011, 08:06:27 AM: Quote from: foureyedzebra on May 01, 2011, 12:22:41 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkCviTVcIs8

Based solely on the limited view in this video, I think the better ruling would have been progress. Perhaps the ball was loose during all of that mess, and it finally got propelled toward A's goal line - but I don't think that is likely. Progress.
Title: Re: Fumble or Forward Progress?
Post by: MJT on May 01, 2011, 10:43:14 PM: I'd hope our crew would have this as forward progress. That is how I'd believe we'd have it based on our discussions.
Title: Re: Fumble or Forward Progress?
Post by: Wont_Do_To_Tell on May 02, 2011, 08:32:36 PM: Forward Progress all the way.........at least from the angle on that video
Title: Re: Fumble or Forward Progress?
Post by: sj_31 on May 06, 2011, 12:18:17 AM: I assume this is Texas/NCAA rules? Otherwise that's a classic IBW by the fullback if using Fed rules.
Title: Re: Fumble or Forward Progress?
Post by: El Macman on May 06, 2011, 06:17:31 AM: Quote from: sj_31 on May 06, 2011, 12:18:17 AM
I assume this is Texas/NCAA rules? Otherwise that's a classic IBW by the fullback if using Fed rules.

Well, the topic is "NCAA Rules Discussion." And "IBW" is no longer a foul code (even when it was, it was for an illegal block in the back). Nowadays, IBB = Illegal Block in the Back; BBW = Block below the Waist.
Title: Re: Fumble or Forward Progress?
Post by: sj_31 on May 06, 2011, 10:37:06 AM: true nuff. That occurred to me after I closed the lid to my laptop after a very long day. As is evidenced in a couple other of my fantastic posts this evening, best to only read and not post after a certain point in the night.... Never could figure out what the W was for in IBW for illegal block in the back.
Title: Re: Fumble or Forward Progress?
Post by: Grant - AR on May 06, 2011, 10:39:10 AM: Quote from: sj_31 on May 06, 2011, 10:37:06 AM
true nuff. That occurred to me after I closed the lid to my laptop after a very long day. As is evidenced in a couple other of my fantastic posts this evening, best to only read and not post after a certain point in the night....

I agree. (http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt335/bjtilt/Smiley-sleeping.gif)
Title: Re: Fumble or Forward Progress?
Post by: Etref on May 06, 2011, 11:18:40 AM: Quote from: sj_31 on May 06, 2011, 10:37:06 AM
true nuff. That occurred to me after I closed the lid to my laptop after a very long day. As is evidenced in a couple other of my fantastic posts this evening, best to only read and not post after a certain point in the night.... Never could figure out what the W was for in IBW for illegal block in the back.

W (asn't supposed to) nAnA
Title: Re: Fumble or Forward Progress?
Post by: El Macman on May 08, 2011, 08:16:50 AM: It was a convoluted NFL acronym - Illegal Block in the back above the Waist. As opposed to a clip (below the waist).