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Football Officiating => NCAA Discussion => Topic started by: TXMike on December 04, 2011, 10:45:53 AM

Title: OPI ? (video)
Post by: TXMike on December 04, 2011, 10:45:53 AM
I don't see it.

http://youtu.be/EnDJ-q9-6dY (http://youtu.be/EnDJ-q9-6dY)
Title: Re: OPI ? (video)
Post by: Etref on December 04, 2011, 11:22:07 AM
I do not see any separation,   ^no
Title: Re: OPI ? (video)
Post by: mbyron on December 04, 2011, 12:13:58 PM
I guess he's flagging the right hand just before the ball arrives. Not sure there's much advantage gained.
Title: Re: OPI ? (video)
Post by: Hank on December 04, 2011, 01:56:35 PM
I guess he's flagging the right hand just before the ball arrives. Not sure there's much advantage gained.

That MUST be what is called.  There's not MUCH advantage gained, just enough to make the catch.  We expect DBs to have hands off, what's wrong with expecting the same from WRs?  Tight call, but good call.
Title: Re: OPI ? (video)
Post by: JasonTX on December 04, 2011, 02:03:51 PM
That MUST be what is called.  There's not MUCH advantage gained, just enough to make the catch.  We expect DBs to have hands off, what's wrong with expecting the same from WRs?  Tight call, but good call.

Who said DB's had to "have hands off"?  There must be an obvious impedement.  I don't see it here myself.  There can be contact by either player as long is it doesn't impede one from being able to make a play on the ball.
Title: Re: OPI ? (video)
Post by: mccormicw on December 04, 2011, 02:28:26 PM
I believe we too often do not rule OPI because an offensive player did not CREATE separation.  I have seen many cases (i have probably done the same) where we let the offensive player MAINTAIN separation thereby preventing the defensive player from making a play.  There was definitely a slight push in the video.  Does the push rise to the level of creating or maintaining the slight separation required to catch the ball?  I am not saying it does or doesnt in this play.  I am simply saying I dont believe one has to CREATE separation in order for there to be OPI.

If I take a pass on these plays, I always tell the receiver, don't make me judge whether or not you pushed off.  Play the ball and keep your hands off the defender.
Title: Re: OPI ? (video)
Post by: 110 on December 04, 2011, 03:46:14 PM
I'm comfortable with that call.
Title: Re: OPI ? (video)
Post by: Hank on December 04, 2011, 03:58:11 PM
Who said DB's had to "have hands off"?  There must be an obvious impedement.  I don't see it here myself.  There can be contact by either player as long is it doesn't impede one from being able to make a play on the ball.

OK, sorry, no hands off.  But here, there's just enough impediment to prevent the DB from making a play on the ball.
Title: Re: OPI ? (video)
Post by: Sonofanump on December 04, 2011, 07:56:28 PM
I did not see it being OPI.
Title: Re: OPI ? (video)
Post by: ljudge on December 09, 2011, 07:45:39 PM
I think Hank said it well.  I'd be surprised if he got anything less than a "correct call" from his evaluator.  Perhaps that's why that deep wing was in a game of this magnitude.  He's smart enough to see that advantage gained in a bang-bang situation and didn't think twice about it.