Message from UIL

[TXMike]

Understand officials registered with UIL received this message today:

Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:02:22 -0400
Subject: 2013-14 1204 Fee Implementation

Dear Sports Official:
 
As you may know, the UIL Legislative Council passed changes to Section 1204 of the UIL Constitution and Contest Rules, including changes to the sports officials fee schedule. Shortly after these changes were passed, litigation filed by the Texas Association of Sports Officials (TASO) delayed implementation of the new rule. Most recently, the TASO case has been on appeal before the Austin Court of Appeals. During the course of the litigation, UIL has authorized use of the 2009 version of Section 1204, which has been located in the Appendix of the Constitution and Contest Rules.
 
During the regular legislative session, HB 1775 was passed into law; making the lawsuit moot and ultimately removing the legal obstacle to implementation of the changes approved by the UIL Legislative Council in 2009.  On July 3, 2013, the Austin Court of Appeals granted the joint motion of the parties and dismissed the appeal.  With the litigation obstacle removed, the new version of Section 1204 will now be in effect for the 2013-2014 school year.
 
The UIL registration process for team sports officials WILL NOT be implemented for the 2013-2014 school year. We will provide more information regarding the sports officials registration process in the coming months.
 
You may access the new version of Section 1204 with the following link:
http://www.uiltexas.org/files/constitution/uil-ccr-section-1204.pdf
 
If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact the UIL office.
 
Sincerely,
 
Tony Timmons,
UIL Director of Officials

[secondeagle]

Understand that schools got a message from UIL stating that they are finally going to implement the "pay scale" for the upcoming season.

[JasonTX]

Do I read that right, that chapters have to determine which mileage reimbursement to use.  Either metro rate or normal mileage reimbursement. 

[tzebra]

It is my understanding that games within the 40 mile radius will be billed at the Metro rate.  All the games outside this radius will be the regular state rate as in the past. Here is the UIL mapping site info.
Go to www.uiltexas.org  click Sports Officials in the upper right corner.  Click Sports. Select your sport and scroll down to CHAPTER CENTER POINTS heading.  The link to the website you can use to generate your rings on a map is there.

[mogul84]

Under Mileage Section B article 4
Each chapter of each sport shall select the method of payment for travel
reimbursement 30 days prior to the first contest.

[JasonTX]

We will definitely not be using metro rate.  Why would I drive 50 miles to a game site that is supposedly our center point and only get $12 ?  I am not sure who determined my chapters center point but they are far from it.  Our furthest officials are over 100 miles from each other.  In fact we have less than 50% of our members that actually live in the assigned center point.  How do they determine the center point?

[slo8140]

I am glad the new system is finally in place. It will allow us to charge more than one mileage on Sub Varsity games and on some Friday nights. Makes it a lot better to get mileage...all be it at reduced rate. Some is better than nothing.

I call baseball as well and I am really looking forward to the raise we get there. That will be a nice change. No big deal on losing the gate because most schools don't take a gate and the ones that do rarely pay correctly. I got the shaft in a playoff series this year. 3A series, place was packed...only got $5 extra.

[TXMike]

If I was at the UIL I would change the  playoff rate structure anyways to take advantage of the reality which is...Guys will work many of those games (especially the later round ones) for close to nothing. 

[TexDoc]

Good thing you're not the UIL then.

[Cowman52]

Any check that comes along is appreciated. Late is better than none.

[Cowman52]

Any one  working the numbers on the new 1204 deal?

[mogul84]

Unless you are in a Metro chapter(Dallas,Houston or SA) then the metro rate seems to be a bad deal. The real question is do the schools realize how many crews will choose to go with 3 cars at 60% and how much extra this is going to cost them.

[rickref]

[quote author= a Metro chapter(Dallas,Houston or SA) then the metro rate seems to be a bad deal. The real question is do the schools realize how many crews will choose to go with 3 cars at 60% and how much extra this is going to cost them.
[/quote]

I know an ex coach from a small school who feels this will really cause problems. As a chapter we are doing what we can to urge guys to still ride together or take no more then 2 cars to a site if needed.

[Etref]

Could make a huge difference for them to pay 3 cars to remote spots like Wellington which is 120 miles from the chapter location. I am sure many more exsist in the state, especially in West Texas and the Valley.

[TexDoc]

We travel about 140 miles one way from San Antonio to Del Rio.  That could add up with three cars.  Looks like about $277 for a single crew if they take three cars.  Ouch.

[JasonTX]

We travel about 140 miles one way from San Antonio to Del Rio.  That could add up with three cars.  Looks like about $277 for a single crew if they take three cars.  Ouch.

. This will make up for all the games where schools weren't paying the game fee properly according the the gate.

[TXMike]

And to clarify...
If you send clock operators and/or chain crew , they are considered an entirely separate crew so they do not have to go down to 75% if they are taking a car and the on field crew is taking  a car.  From the mouth of Tony Timmons...

[curlyrefjd]

um, what am I missing here--although the school pays more, now three people drive at 60% of what it costs them to drive--or, are you suggesting that we just lie and say 3 cars drove?

~v~

[TXMike]

For my part, I am saying claim what you did.  If 1 guy drove then he gets 100% of the established rate.  But you can choose to have 2 or 3 drivers WITHOUT SEEKING APPROVAL FROM SCHOOL.  You can do that and each guy gets the reduced rate (which will still be a cost to the schools significantly more than what it would cost if they forced us to use 1 car)

[Cowman52]

The 1204 deal is the first help we have had in some years, I would suggest we as officials don't get hoggy at the trough and start working on ways to "work" the system.  If it happens, you can bet every game will have a school person with that cell phone camera being extremely observant of how our invoice matches our actual driving.

[TXMike]

If you are not gonna be honest about the pay then get your rear end out of this cause you failed the 1st prerequisite of an official...iNTEGRITY

[Cowman52]

I was trying to be somewhat delicate.

[Rulesman]

If you are not gonna be honest about the pay then get your rear end out of this cause you failed the 1st prerequisite of an official...iNTEGRITY

+1

[mogul84]

Apparantly Tony Timmons himself clarified at the meeting today. A rider fee will only be paid to official #4 and #5 if 3 cars are taken. So, NO.... Dont lie about the cars we take. But  dont expect someone to take a 3hr roundtrip for free, if this is the system they have decided to put in place we have no obligation to not maximize these rules to our benefit. I suspect this rule will be modified by the UIL after a few weeks of schools complaining about it's financial ramifications.

[TXMike]

Taking a 3 hr (or 6 hr) roundtrip "for free" is not new.    It is not like something is being taken away from anyone.  You may think you deserve to be paid for that but lots of folks think they deserve to be paid for things at their jobs but they are not.  The fact that we can take multiple cars without school okay is huge.   I am not an accountant so have not computed all the numbers but it sure seems like this "new" 1204 is going to cost schools more and if it is costing schools more then officials are getting more.