BBW Punt discussion

[Coby]

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Very interesting punt formation with a BBW.  Lets have the discussion on here after you review the play.  Do you like this format?  I will be happy to post similiar plays if all of you like and will respond.  I have about 1100 HS game films to choose from.  Coby

I posted in General discussion also.

Let's keep the same topic in one place.

[TexDoc]

Does not meet definition of scrimmage kick formation:

A scrimmage kick formation is a formation with at least one
player seven yards or more behind the neutral zone, no player in position to
receive a hand-to-hand snap from between the snapper’s legs, and it is obvious
that a kick may be attempted


Although it doesn't meet the definition of a scrimmage kick formation, that does not exclude blocking below the waist from being illegal:

During a down in which there is a free kick or scrimmage kick, blocking below the
waist by any player is illegal except against a ball carrier.


The kicker and snapper are not protected in ways they would be if this were done from a scrimmage kick formation.

[psv]

If this is their regular punt formation, then I would say that BBW is restricted even though the other protections are not.

Would it be any different if Team A used the QB in a non-deep formation, he rolls out acting like he might pass and then he punts it instead?  BBW would be restricted there (at least from the time of the kick), right?

[JasonTX]

If they kick then block below the waist is a foul.  It may be a delayed foul since you have to wait to see if they kick.  Another thing to be aware of is the possibility of an illegal formation.  Since they aren't in a SKF, then they are not allowed to use the number exception.  I can't tell on this video if they are or not, but just something to be aware of. 

[TXMike]

While the snapper loses protection if not in a SKF, the kicker does not automatically lose it just because they are not in that formation.  He may not get as much protection if kicking in this formation but they also do not have a free shot at him.  SKF has nothing to do with the definition of a "kicker"

[Welpe]

We had a play like this earlier this year. The middle three linemen all went low together and then the QB pitched the ball and it was punted. The coaches did not like the explanation but there isn't much to discuss.