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Offline hefnerjm

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« on: August 01, 2015, 05:29:24 PM »
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Re: HL Videos
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2015, 12:02:40 PM »
In the first video under "Onside Kick Coverage", it appears a Team A player to the left of the formation is offside. We've been taught philosophically there is a "hard plane" on onside kicks. Why is the U and B not on Team A's restraining line?
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Re: HL Videos
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2015, 12:42:07 PM »
They are on Team A's restraining line.
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Offline JDM

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Re: HL Videos
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2015, 02:29:06 PM »
After reviewing the video again, I stand corrected about the B & U positioning.

Still curious about the possible OFK, though.
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Re: HL Videos
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2015, 03:47:06 PM »
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Offline hefnerjm

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Re: HL Videos
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2015, 03:56:27 PM »
Quote from: JDM on August 06, 2015, 12:02:40 PM
We've been taught philosophically there is a "hard plane" on onside kicks.

I have been taught this as well.  I've also been taught to treat every kick as if it were an onside kick, until it is kicked deep.  With that in mind, I try to follow this progression:
1st) did he break the "hard plane"?  if no, play on
if yes, 2nd) was it kicked deep? if no, offside.
if yes, 3) did he cross the restraining line by a full step before kicked? if no, play on. 
if yes, offside

it looks alot prettier with a decision tree in excel...but hey...thats the nerd in me.

With the benefit of Sky's screenshot, I would say this probably should have been called offside....that said...the guy freakin kicked it with the backside of his foot while doing a crazy riverdance move, and STILL delivered a perfect onside kick 11 yards deep.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2015, 03:58:13 PM by hefnerjm »
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Offline TxSkyBolt

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Re: HL Videos
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2015, 04:06:21 PM »
Recently we've been taught "through the heart" philosophy. If the "heart" of the kicker is over the line when it is kicked, it's OFK (regardless of distance of kick).
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