Impetus (8-7-2-b) Exceptions?

[cperezprg]

My rulebook (2015) doesn't have any exceptions in rule 8-7-2-b (new impetus); so according to this, a loose ball bat in the end zone is a new impetus in 2015
 Is this an error from my copy or is really a rule change?


2015:
Initial impetus is considered expended and the responsibility for the ball’s
progress is charged to a player:
1. If he kicks a ball not in player possession or bats a loose ball after it
strikes the ground
2. If the ball comes to rest and he gives it new impetus by any contact with
it, other than through forced touching (Rule 2-11-4-c)

2013-14:
Initial impetus is considered expended and the responsibility for the ball’s
progress is charged to a player:
1. If he kicks a ball not in player possession or bats a loose ball after it
strikes the ground (Exception: The original impetus is not changed when
a loose ball is batted or kicked in the end zone.)
2. If the ball comes to rest and he gives it new impetus by any contact with it.
Exceptions:
1. Rules 6-1-4-a and 6-3-4-a (A.R. 6-3-4-I-III).
2. The original impetus is not changed when a ball at rest in the end zone
is moved when touched by an official or a player.

[Kalle]

I think the change clarifies this situation:

3/10 A-2. A8, standing in his own end zone, muffs the snap. While the ball is loose in the end zone B80 bats the ball backwards. The ball bounces back to the field of play where A33 muffs the ball back into the team A end zone. A8 recovers the ball while grounded in the end zone.

Old rule implies that the original impetus is still the snap, so the result would be a safety. The new wording implies that the result is a touchback.

[cperezprg]

It would be a safety, but with B's foul. Final ruling would be: A 1/10 A-18. (2014). For 2015, it would be A 1/10 A-20.

Another play, ball carrier A#81 fumbles the ball at B-1, the loose ball cross the goal line rolling to the end line. Prior going out of bound, B#50 bats the ball to the end line.

2014: Touchback, but B's foul enforced from the end of A#81's run (chance for touchdown)
2015: Safety

Maybe I'm wrong but I think it's a major change taht should be higlighted in the begining of the rulebook.
Do your 2015 rulebook also haven't the exceptions part?

[Kalle]

Another play, ball carrier A#81 fumbles the ball at B-1, the loose ball cross the goal line rolling to the end line. Prior going out of bound, B#50 bats the ball to the end line.

2014: Touchback, but B's foul enforced from the end of A#81's run (chance for touchdown)
2015: Safety

I don't think there is a change in this play situation. The impetus for the ball crossing into the end zone is still the fumble by A81, so the result of the play is still a touchback.

[cperezprg]

Safety : The ball becomes dead out of bounds behind a goal line, ... , and the defending
team is responsible for the ball being there

Impulse:
Initial impetus is considered expended and the responsibility for the ball’s progress is charged to a player:
If he kicks a ball not in player possession or bats a loose ball after it strikes the ground

I haven't write it, but imagine the loose ball striked the ground before B#50's bat. Without the end zone's excpetion, now team B is responsible for dead ball in his own goal line.

Maybe i'm just not understanding the rewritten rule

[Kalle]

"The team responsible for the ball being out of bounds behind a goal line or being dead in the possession of a player on, above or behind a goal line is the team whose player carries the ball or imparts an impetus to it that forces it on, above or across the goal line, or is responsible for a loose ball being on, above or behind the goal line."

The key part is "forces it on, above or across." If the ball has already been forced into the end zone and it does not leave the end zone, responsibility does not change.

[cperezprg]

Thanks, really.

This was driven me crazy. I was so focused in 8-7-2, where the exceptions were; that didn't notice that 8-7-1 already explained there's no new impetus once the ball is above or crossed the goal line.

[Kalle]

One thing I love about Refstripes is that when something in the NCAA rules is driving you crazy, there is always somebody who will explain it in detail. I've been on the  side several times, so I always try to return the favor