Author Topic: Game Fees  (Read 28452 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

StripedOutlaw

  • Guest
Game Fees
« on: June 16, 2016, 11:03:44 AM »
I remember seeing this posted a couple of years ago.  But can't find it.  What are states paying now days?

Utah is $57 for Varsity. $64 for Post season.  $44 for Sub Varsity.

Offline TxSkyBolt

  • *
  • Posts: 2007
  • FAN REACTION: +45/-46
Game Fees
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2016, 06:49:08 PM »
It's a formula based on ticket sales in Texas. Average is $100 based on my experience. Country games will generally be less and big In town games a bit more.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline sir55

  • *
  • Posts: 205
  • FAN REACTION: +12/-5
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2016, 06:56:54 PM »
2015 game fees for Mississippi was $90 for varsity; $120 for playoffs; $150 for championships. Supposed to get a state raise this year, but has not be posted.

Offline wheels71

  • *
  • Posts: 28
  • FAN REACTION: +1/-0
  • Without officials... it is only recess.
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2016, 06:45:58 AM »
In north central Ohio your lower level games are around $45 and your varsity around $65.

Offline HLinNC

  • *
  • Posts: 3491
  • FAN REACTION: +133/-24
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2016, 08:52:10 AM »
NCHSAA

C. FOOTBALL
a. Regular Season $76.00 flat fee
b. Playoff $86.00 flat fee (1st round through regionals)
    Clock Operator (Starting 2nd round) $86.00 flat fee
c. State Finals $91.00 flat fee

d. Junior Varsity Fees $71.00 (4 person crew), $66.00 (5 person crew)



stevestod

  • Guest
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2016, 02:07:20 PM »

VFOA +- Vermont

Varsity          75.00  (5 man crew)

JV & Frosh      45.00  (4 man crew}

New this year we are going to 7 man crew for Championship game.

Offline dawgstripes

  • *
  • Posts: 9
  • FAN REACTION: +0/-0
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2016, 10:21:28 AM »
2015 game fees for Mississippi was $90 for varsity; $120 for playoffs; $150 for championships. Supposed to get a state raise this year, but has not be posted.

Saw it posted on the MHSAA website. It has gone up to $100/game with playoffs and championships staying the same.
Middle School and JV went up a bit too if I'm not mistaken.

oakpatch1997

  • Guest
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2016, 12:49:57 PM »
MAIS - Mississippi Association of Independent Schools
LHSAA - Junior Highs

varsity -  100 (5 man crew)
jv - 50 (4 man crew)
peewee - 65 (3 man crew)

lhsaa junior high
1 game - 65 (4 man crew)
2 games - 90 (4 man crew)

Offline riffraft

  • *
  • Posts: 348
  • FAN REACTION: +19/-19
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2016, 02:43:22 PM »
Arizona

Varsity $70 (5 man crew)
Subvarsity $45 (4 man)

Tournament game $87.50
Championship game $105.00

Less $1 assigning fee to AIA

If you live in and game is within the phoenix metro area, you received $10 for mileage, otherwise $.44/mile

Offline TexDoc

  • *
  • Posts: 1861
  • FAN REACTION: +98/-26
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2016, 09:52:23 AM »
Texas may get more for varsity games, but it sure looks like all of the other states get more for sub varsity.

Offline hefnerjm

  • *
  • Posts: 331
  • FAN REACTION: +19/-23
  • Everyone needs a student, a mentor, & a friend
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2016, 02:49:52 PM »
Texas may get more for varsity games, but it sure looks like all of the other states get more for sub varsity.

Volume of games more than makes up for that.  When I worked in Michigan, a 9th/JV doubleheader was a relatively rare occurrence.  I even remember specific occasions where the association would have two different crews at the same site for back to back JV/frosh games.   

I dont think I worked any JV sites in Texas last year that I had fewer than 2 games...and most of the time it was 3-4.  With the changes to 1204 this year, TX will be above average on JV based on the requirements to work all games at a site in a given day provides the opportunity to pull over 150 for a triple/quad JV set. 
Coach: "I've been doing this 30 years!  I know the rules!"
Ref: "Are you married coach?"
Coach (suddenly offguard): "umm...yeah, why?"
Ref: "I've been married 30 years and my wife says there is still room for improvement"
Coach: "<silence>"

Offline VALJ

  • *
  • Posts: 2466
  • FAN REACTION: +95/-15
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2016, 02:56:49 PM »
I don't know what the rest of Virginia is paying, but for our association, we bill the schools:

JV - divisions 1 through 4 $350 (split among 5 officials, $70 each); divisions 5 and 6 $420 (divided among 7 officials, $60 each)

Varsity - divisions 1 through 4 $450 (divided among 5 officials $90 each); divisions 5 and 6 $630 (divided among 7 officials, $90 each)

If we provide a clock operator, that adds an additional $70.

Divisions 1 through 4 also are billed a travel fee of $65 to $80 per game divided among crew members as well.

We also have enough officials that we can cover just about every division 5 and 6 game (the larger schools) with 7 officials.  If for some reason we can only cover with 5, those officials split the fee 5 ways instead of 7.

Offline Matt

  • *
  • Posts: 114
  • FAN REACTION: +17/-3
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2016, 04:40:41 PM »
Hey Hef,

What part of MI where you in? I'm in Oakland County and the leagues I have worked we've always have done F/JV doubleheaders.

Offline DallasLJ

  • *
  • Posts: 568
  • FAN REACTION: +16/-15
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2016, 05:18:41 PM »
Something else to consider outside Texas - how is subvasity defined?  In Texas, we not only have Frosh / JV -- we also have 7th and 8th grade, and the random Soph games.  So, we have SV M, T, W and Th (and as noted earlier they are often 2x, 3x or 4x games).

  I have a sense that most other states do not have 7th / 8th grade ball in school.

Offline TexDoc

  • *
  • Posts: 1861
  • FAN REACTION: +98/-26
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2016, 07:19:16 AM »
DallasLJ, I don't know about up there, but I suspect it is the same as we have in central Texas, we have to combine games at one site or they will not get covered. 

Hef, about 10 years ago the UIL changed the pay rate to make all games a flat $450, for all levels.  The schools complained and they changed it so the pay is based on how many minutes are played per quarter.  I liked the flat fee structure because it made it easy for the schools and officials to know how much they were to get paid, instead of having to guess how many minutes are played per quarter, and we didn't have as much trouble getting guys out to work games.  Yes, pay does make a difference.  When you are looking to work a double header with kickoff at 4:30 and the field is as hard as a rock, with no grass and mostly dirt and dust, and the temperature is 106 with an index of 115, yeah, most guys don't really want to be out there.

Offline hefnerjm

  • *
  • Posts: 331
  • FAN REACTION: +19/-23
  • Everyone needs a student, a mentor, & a friend
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2016, 01:47:14 PM »
Hey Hef,

What part of MI where you in? I'm in Oakland County and the leagues I have worked we've always have done F/JV doubleheaders.

I worked out of Midland/Bay City/Saginaw area.
Coach: "I've been doing this 30 years!  I know the rules!"
Ref: "Are you married coach?"
Coach (suddenly offguard): "umm...yeah, why?"
Ref: "I've been married 30 years and my wife says there is still room for improvement"
Coach: "<silence>"

Offline TxSkyBolt

  • *
  • Posts: 2007
  • FAN REACTION: +45/-46
Game Fees
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2016, 07:18:02 PM »
I'd like that $450 flat rate too Doc


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Offline hefnerjm

  • *
  • Posts: 331
  • FAN REACTION: +19/-23
  • Everyone needs a student, a mentor, & a friend
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2016, 09:59:47 AM »
I'd like that $450 flat rate too Doc


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

I would imagine that would make getting any sort of meaningful increase in the future pretty difficult.
the dialogue for a $5-10 increase (per official) is easier to have than a $50-100 increase (per game).
Coach: "I've been doing this 30 years!  I know the rules!"
Ref: "Are you married coach?"
Coach (suddenly offguard): "umm...yeah, why?"
Ref: "I've been married 30 years and my wife says there is still room for improvement"
Coach: "<silence>"

Offline TxSkyBolt

  • *
  • Posts: 2007
  • FAN REACTION: +45/-46
Game Fees
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2016, 11:03:18 AM »
You missed my sarcasm Hef. I'm sure Doc meant $45 not $450


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Offline VALJ

  • *
  • Posts: 2466
  • FAN REACTION: +95/-15
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2016, 10:25:13 AM »
Something else to consider outside Texas - how is subvasity defined?  In Texas, we not only have Frosh / JV -- we also have 7th and 8th grade, and the random Soph games.  So, we have SV M, T, W and Th (and as noted earlier they are often 2x, 3x or 4x games).

  I have a sense that most other states do not have 7th / 8th grade ball in school.
Dallas, in our association, everything below varsity is sub-varsity. One of the counties we serve offers middle school ball, and some of the schools we serve had both a JV and a freshman team. (I'm not sure if they still have both Frosh and JV, after budget cuts a few years back.)

Middle school and Frosh games pay the same and regular JV.

Offline hefnerjm

  • *
  • Posts: 331
  • FAN REACTION: +19/-23
  • Everyone needs a student, a mentor, & a friend
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2016, 11:10:58 AM »
You missed my sarcasm Hef. I'm sure Doc meant $45 not $450


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Ohh...I thought he meant $450 as a flat fee for the whole game, split by however many officials worked.
Coach: "I've been doing this 30 years!  I know the rules!"
Ref: "Are you married coach?"
Coach (suddenly offguard): "umm...yeah, why?"
Ref: "I've been married 30 years and my wife says there is still room for improvement"
Coach: "<silence>"

Offline SD_Casey

  • *
  • Posts: 138
  • FAN REACTION: +8/-1
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2016, 10:23:51 AM »
South Dakota is $100 for all varsity.  Regular season, playoffs, even the state final.  $100 flat no matter which varsity game it is.

Offline TNofficial

  • *
  • Posts: 30
  • FAN REACTION: +1/-0
  • Without officials... it is only recess.
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2016, 03:30:41 PM »
Tennessee is $100 per game in both the regular and postseason.  ECO gets $70.  Mileage is paid for playoff games.

Offline TexDoc

  • *
  • Posts: 1861
  • FAN REACTION: +98/-26
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2016, 06:37:25 AM »
I'd like that $450 flat rate too Doc


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Maybe an extra zero in there??!!

NJOfficial

  • Guest
Re: Game Fees
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2016, 09:32:33 PM »
NJ is $85 for varsity regular season and playoffs (mostly 6 man) and $60 for frosh/JV.