Game Video

[ElvisLives]

During my first HS career, we never - never - got video to review.  Of course, back then it was actually "film," which would have been completely impractical for schools to share with officials.  During my FBS days, we got video (at first on DVD, then by various video distribution web sites) for every game.  I'm sure I am preaching to the choir when I say that game video is totally essential for learning, teaching, and training.
So, upon my return to HS officiating, I was really happy to see that TASO officials have access to game video via a common video distribution web site (not gonna plug them, but you know who they are).  But, the problem I am seeing is that, of seven varsity contests, we have received video for only three.  Sure, better than nothing, and it has helped my crew improve and grow enormously in 7 weeks, but I sure wish we could get video for all of our games.

My question to y'all is:  Are y'all getting similar results?  Or are y'all getting video for all of your games?

Now that the compensation package is behind us, I'd like to see TASO re-focus on training.  To that end, I'd like to see some effort to coax the UIL into requiring - not just recommending - their members to provide game video from every contest for TASO members to use for training.  You'd think the UIL would be all in favor of anything that will help in improving officiating.

Is this "pie in the sky?"

Robert

[TexDoc]

I was able to view about 90% of the game videos we worked in my previous chapter.  So far this year, I've not seen any.  I agree, it is great to look at those videos, especially as close to the game date as possible while it's still in your memory. 

What we did find is that certain coaches would not ever share video for fear it would wind up with opposing coaches.  But, if the team you played wants to share, they will.  I'm not sure what the rule is, but it is some like each coach has to share one or two game videos, not all of them, and they get to share.  They can also edit out just about any play they want.

But, rest assured, if the coaches have a complaint, they will send in the highlights with those questionable plays.

[The Roamin' Umpire]

Not Texas, but up here we have the same problem - the association gets complete film for maybe 15% of all varsity games.

[Ump62]

Elvis,

Prior to this year we relied on individual Crew Chiefs to request film during the pregame conference, last year we had an approximate 20% return rate. This year our Film Coordinator the sends out requests to the schools each week they have a game. This year, as a Chapter, we are hitting about 75% of all games being submitted. This 75% has been reached with requests being sent only to the home schools. I suspect we would be closer to 90% if we solicited both.

There is another Chapter that has allowed Crew Chiefs access to the request function. We did not take that route due to the risk of improper communication between the Official and Coach. Using a coordinator allows a clearinghouse for coaches' comments and questions and ensures that serious questions or perceived rules or mechanics miss-applications are seen by our Assigner and a couple of others.

In the vernacular of the film database company - the Film Coordinator and 1 or 2 others are "Coaches" and Crew Chiefs are "Players". This structure also ensures that the Crew Chief and members of the Crew can not share film outside of our organization. Another great fear of Coaches, that we will share film with one of their opponents. Trust me Coach, he already has your film, he doesn't need it from me!

Overall we have been please with the number of games received and we will continue to encourage and educate our members about how to best use this resource.

Welcome Back!

[ElvisLives]

Thanks for the replies, fellas.  Looks like we aren't the 'exception.'  That's good to know.

Ump62, does your video coordinator request the videos prior to the game?  Or post-game?  By e-mail?  Other?  That method may be something I can ask our Chapter to attempt, if we understand the mechanics of it.  Any help you can give would be appreciated.

Robert

PS I wouldn't know how - and don't care to know how - to share video with anybody.  Damned sure ain't invitin' coaches to my house to watch.

[TexDoc]

The majority of coaches use Hudl.  Certain people can send requests through Hudl for someone to share a video they have in  their library.  It takes just seconds. 

[JasonTX]

We get 100% of our games if they are recorded.  We have one 1A private school that doesn't record all the time.  As for the other schools we get them.  I am the admin and when I get home at midnight on most Friday nights I will get on HUDL and send a request to each of the teams for them to share the video.  By early Saturday morning all of the games have been shared.  For those that haven't responded by Saturday afternoon I simply send a text message to the coach and then they instantly share it.  If a coach is being slow I will send a request to the other team.  One way or the other we get the film.  On average, for our chapter we are looking at 15 to 18 games per week.  For the larger chapters you would definitely need coordinators.  Our coaches will also include comments when they share the video so a system will need to be established on what to do with those comments.  For us, I share them with the crew as most cases they have included play numbers they want us to review.  If they ask for an opinion on a certain play I will review the plays and give them my opinion.  I also watch every game and add annotations for that crew and I also create a weekly training video of plays from all our games.  This gets reviewed at our chapter meeting and then shared with all the members so they can watch it again.  It is a lot of work but one that our members find beneficial.  It is amazing to see the transformation of officials in front of you.  For example week 1 and 2 I may have a guy that's using some incorrect mechanics and it gets pointed out to him and then you can see him making the changes in his games as the weeks progress.  If I need to find video for DPI, I can easily select all the games and then select all the plays that I have tagged with DPI.   

[Coby]

This is our 8th season on HUDL.  I have been the HUDL bitch Liason for all 8 years.  Here is the data:

The crews that ask for the games and send the request thru HUDL exchange get their films 90% of the time.

The crews that tell the coaches during pregame to send the film get the film about 25% of the time.

About 15% of the schools are going to send the film in regardless of if we asked for it or not.

When coaches complain and send in plays it is literally 1/3 1/3 1/3.  1/3 the ref was right, 1/3 ref was wrong, 1/3 not enough visual evidence.

My suggestions for increasing film response:

When coaches complain to chapter leadership response should be, "Coach I will get back with you after I review the film, please send the film to our HUDL account"

Send the request thru HUDL.  When you ask during pregame coach will forget.  When you send a film request thru HUDL, it is easy to click twice and send it back. 

When coaches dont want to share film.  Send them a link of their star Rb's highlight film on youtube. 

The improper contact people are making a mountain out of a mole hill.  Everything in HUDL is tracked and hard to delete.  If you see people kissing BUTT on HUDL exchanges then you address it. 

Some of you sound like liberals with guns debate.  Instead of punishing the people who use guns illegally.  Lets put more restrictions on people who use guns responsibly.  Makes a lot of sense!!!

We call 110 games a week.  Some weeks we get 140 game films.  If you have any specific questions let me know.

Film time watched is now tracked inside of HUDL.  We have 520 users on our account.  Last week 45 of them spent more then 15 minutes on HUDL.  Getting film is easy.  Getting old farts who are set in their ways and have huge ego's that can not admit they can get better... is difficult.

[psv]

For my crew specifically, we had been pretty successful in getting film back prior to district.

once district started, it has been much more difficult.

Our chapter contacts the coaches and asks them/reminds them about the film.  I thought that was a great idea.

Unfortunately though, we havent gotten one back in a few weeks.  Not sure what the reason has been.

We were 100% up to week 5... and it has just dropped off a cliff for some reason.

[slo8140]

We use it in the Tyler Chapter as well. So far this year I am hitting 100% for my games. We also have a film review committee where guys that work college football and know more about film study review different crews' film each week to help them improve. I personally love it. Each week I will pull 10-20 plays from the previous week game and make comments about what we did well and what we need to do better.

It is helping my crew and especially me improve.

[ElvisLives]

We use it in the Tyler Chapter as well. So far this year I am hitting 100% for my games. We also have a film review committee where guys that work college football and know more about film study review different crews' film each week to help them improve. I personally love it. Each week I will pull 10-20 plays from the previous week game and make comments about what we did well and what we need to do better.

It is helping my crew and especially me improve.

Exactly who, when, and by what method, is the request made?

I'm just trying to figure out what we are doing wrong, and how we can make the requests, so we can get 100% (or at least a whole lot more than we have now).

Thanks.

Robert

[TexDoc]

Exactly who, when, and by what method, is the request made?

I'm just trying to figure out what we are doing wrong, and how we can make the requests, so we can get 100% (or at least a whole lot more than we have now).

Thanks.

Robert

TXMike is an expert at requesting them.  He's a good person to ask. 

[ElvisLives]

Looks like we now have somebody in our Chapter working on this issue (Chapter-wide).  As Saul Goodman would say, " 'S aul Good man!"

Thanks, everybody!

Robert

[TexDoc]

Looks like we now have somebody in our Chapter working on this issue (Chapter-wide).  As Saul Goodman would say, " 'S aul Good man!"

Thanks, everybody!

Robert

Better call Saul!!! 

[getnbetter]

In Dallas, the Vice-President does one way exchange requests from both teams and we're at around a 90%+ hit ratio on what we receive.  Agree with everyone, it's an invaluable tool. 

[JDM]

I also remember the days of hand delivering a self-addressed envelope with a VHS tape in it to head coaches. Obviously watching tape (literally) has always been critical in assessing my crew's performance. Hudl is such a fabulous tool. I have had no issues consistently getting videos. I initiate a video exchange with both teams the day of the game and typically get the video the next day. If I haven't received it, I'll request the video through Hudl AND I'll email the HC advising that we're awaiting his film. Persistence is the key. Again, this year 100% in receiving at least one video from each game.

[slo8140]

Exactly who, when, and by what method, is the request made?

I'm just trying to figure out what we are doing wrong, and how we can make the requests, so we can get 100% (or at least a whole lot more than we have now).

Thanks.

Robert

Our chapter secretary sends out the requests and them disperses them in HUDL to the crews. I can only see my Crew's film unless a white hat on another crew shares his film with me. In our chapter, Referees are given COACH permissions in HUDL and crew members are given PLAYER permissions.