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Offline dammitbobby

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Scrimmage kick scenarios
« on: August 18, 2024, 10:25:36 AM »
4/10 at the A-10. Punter A44 receives the snap, and kicks the ball high and short. The ball lands at the A-12, and then bounces backwards to the A-5 where A22 recovers, and apparently believing the ball to be dead/turnover on downs, throws the ball to his sideline's ball boy standing at the A-15. (Technical) Ruling? Would you consider anything other than a strict interpretation of the rules here?

Same scenario, but A22 recovers in the EZ, then throws the ball to his sideline's ball boy at the A-15?

Same scenario, but A22 flips the ball to (the very surprised) R, who catches it, in the EZ?
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Re: Scrimmage kick scenarios
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2024, 11:05:41 AM »
The kick crossed the neutral zone and was recovered by Team A. The ball is already dead. Who cares where he throws it? In the first scenario it’s B 1/G @ A-5. In the second it’s a safety.
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Re: Scrimmage kick scenarios
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2024, 11:07:59 AM »
ok, same setup but kick does not cross the NZ. (I had this exact scenario once a couple of years ago, I just goofed writing it out).
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Re: Scrimmage kick scenarios
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2024, 12:16:35 PM »
Quote from: dammitbobby on August 18, 2024, 11:07:59 AM
ok, same setup but kick does not cross the NZ. (I had this exact scenario once a couple of years ago, I just goofed writing it out).

In the case of the ball never crossing the NZ.

1.  Incomplete pass.  Could potentially have ING.
2.  Inadvertent whistle rules apply when a live ball comes into possession by an official.
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Re: Scrimmage kick scenarios
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2024, 03:42:35 PM »
Quote from: JasonTX on August 18, 2024, 12:16:35 PM
In the case of the ball never crossing the NZ.

1.  Incomplete pass.  Could potentially have ING.
2.  Inadvertent whistle rules apply when a live ball comes into possession by an official.

Is there a situation where that could be an illegal forward pass (which is what I was leaning towards on this, but I checked 7-3 and there's no such restriction on a forward pass by A after a completed kick, for reason I thought there was)
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Re: Scrimmage kick scenarios
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2024, 05:03:29 PM »
Quote from: dammitbobby on August 18, 2024, 03:42:35 PM
Is there a situation where that could be an illegal forward pass (which is what I was leaning towards on this, but I checked 7-3 and there's no such restriction on a forward pass by A after a completed kick, for reason I thought there was)

No restriction.  As long as the ball does not cross the NZ it may be, passed, kicked, or advanced by any member of team A.
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