TASO test now available

[dammitbobby]

TASO test now available for completion... does it always get released before the NCAA rulebook for the year is available online?

[dammitbobby]

TASO test now available for completion... does it always get released before the NCAA rulebook for the year is available online?

edit: Test page completely crashed when I tried to submit.  And there were two questions I had that I believe were incorrect.

[Whodatboy18]

Dang. Hope they get it sorted. Was going to take care of it tonight.

Were those two questions related to the new rule changes or older material?

[dammitbobby]

Older, surprisingly. I'll msg them to you

[Whodatboy18]

Looks like the test got pulled.

[Whodatboy18]

I’m taking the test now. The true and false questions have all had the incorrect answer so far.

[dammitbobby]

I'm also surprised I no six-man specific questions.

But, I did get like 4-5 questions about clipping.

[Whodatboy18]

First time I took it the test it broke and started marking every answer wrong after question 14. Hence my confusion in my last comment.

Second time it worked thankfully.

I don’t like how the T/F question about changing a ruling after the next snap is worded. One of those that is intentionally deceptive and should be changed. Plus the answer is only correct in the most technical of senses.

[blindtxzebra]

TASO test is saying that the T signal is only invalid on free kicks but that is incorrect. The T signal is an invalid signal on all kicks. 

[JasonTX]

TASO test is saying that the T signal is only invalid on free kicks but that is incorrect. The T signal is an invalid signal on all kicks. 

That is a bit confusing.  On a free kick it is in effect the moment the ball is kicked.  For a scrimmage kick, it's only in effect after it is caught or touches the ground or a player beyond the neutral zone.  I still don't know what the purpose of the signal is, and I have never even seen the signal.

[ElvisLives]

TASO test is saying that the T signal is only invalid on free kicks but that is incorrect. The T signal is an invalid signal on all kicks. 

At the moment, the "T" signal given while the ball is in flight from the kick is ONLY invalid on Free Kicks. I have heard rumors that the NCAA is considering making it illegal invalid during scrimmage kicks, as well, but I have not seen anything to that effect, yet. If anybody has something official on that, please share.
Yes, any sort of signal - including a "T" - after the legally kicked ball is touched by a player or touches the ground is invalid. However, in 2024 (and before), a static "T" signal while the kick was in flight and untouched was 'nothing.' A Team B player could advance the ball after a catch/recovery following such a signal by any player. After some very 'visible' incidences of teams abusing this rule, the committee acted and has made the "T" signal invalid during Free Kicks (the rule change language is very specific). But, right now, Free Kicks only.

[dammitbobby]

Test is still broken - I didn't get any errors this time but did manage to score a great big zero on it, .

[ElvisLives]

I’m gonna try the test right now. Wish me luck.

[dammitbobby]

Mine finally cleared out, I am good all good.  Only ones I missed were ones I rushed or a couple where I felt they were trying to be purposefully tricky.

[ElvisLives]

Mine finally cleared out, I am good all good.  Only ones I missed were ones I rushed or a couple where I felt they were trying to be purposefully tricky.

We should all contact our District Directors and INSIST that the questions be written in the most thorough and non-ambiguous manner. If they need help, they can call me.

[ElvisLives]

I’m gonna try the test right now. Wish me luck.

I gave up. If some of my answers are actually wrong, as the exam indicated, then I either need to retire (probably), or the test is a mess.

[Whodatboy18]

I agree, very annoying.

For example, this is a question on the Test "No rule decision may be changed after the ball is next legally snapped." The correct answer for the test is "False" and it references Rule 5.

Rule 5-2-9 states:

Rule Decisions Final
ARTICLE 9. No rule decision may be changed after the ball is next legally
snapped, legally free-kicked or the second or fourth periods have ended (Rules
3-2-1-a, 3-3-4-e-2 and 11-1). (Exception: The number of a down may be
corrected any time within that series of downs or before the ball is legally next
put in play after that series.)


I'm sorry, but that is a stupid hair to split on a rules question. I would not normally consider the number of a down as a rule decision anyways.

[ETXZebra]

I took the test last Thursday afternoon, and no problems at all. I tried Wednesday and Thursday morning, and it was a disaster.

[blindtxzebra]

Surely Tony Scazzero wouldn’t mess up anything on the technological side 

[ElvisLives]

I gave up. If some of my answers are actually wrong, as the exam indicated, then I either need to retire (probably), or the test is a mess.

The attached screen shot is but one example where I believe I selected the correct answer, which is supported by the rationale offered as though the answer I selected was incorrect. As you can see, I selected non-flagrant targeting, but got the rationale as if my answer was incorrect. What the....?

[Whodatboy18]

I got the same question. Your answer is correct and the test should recognize that if it is working properly.

It looks like you got the same issue I had the first time I took the test. It got confused halfway through and started marking every answer wrong. If you look at your results, it will display that you didn’t even answer the question. My guess is that the test server is having issues.

[ElvisLives]

I got the same question. Your answer is correct and the test should recognize that if it is working properly.

It looks like you got the same issue I had the first time I took the test. It got confused halfway through and started marking every answer wrong. If you look at your results, it will display that you didn’t even answer the question. My guess is that the test server is having issues.

Good to know. Thanks.
Let’s go back to paper tests. Better yet, let’s go back to proctored paper tests.

[Whodatboy18]

Hard logistically now that everyone has 25 attempts on the test.

Realistically anyone who needs more than 3 tries probably shouldn’t be out there anyways, at least for playoffs.

The way a lot of people pass is to go through it quickly once or twice, review the correct answers, and then take it in a more serious manner already knowing the questions and answers. If you actually need more than five tries, you aren’t even smart enough to “cheat” effectively.

The mindset is how to make sure people get out on the field, not have the test as any type of real barrier. The evidence being some of the performances we’ve seen recently.

[Cosmokramer1]

Seems the test is still having issues at this moment (Wednesday afternoon).  Unless there's been a rule change that now allow teams to carry over time outs from regulation to extra periods.  I stopped taking the test after I missed the first 15 questions. 

[dammitbobby]

The attached screen shot is but one example where I believe I selected the correct answer, which is supported by the rationale offered as though the answer I selected was incorrect. As you can see, I selected non-flagrant targeting, but got the rationale as if my answer was incorrect. What the....?

My issue with the explanation is that the IIL exception doesn’t define flagrant vs non-flagrant as intent, which the definition given does. see this thread (apologies currently on an airplane and can’t piece it all together here)

https://www.refstripes.com/forum/index.php?topic=15356.msg156222#msg156222