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TASO Mechanics changes?
« on: December 31, 2025, 10:06:40 AM »
It's about the time where some of us see an email from TASO soliciting for mechanics changes for next year.
I thought a thread of ideas might be useful.
Anyone got any mechanics change suggestions?

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2025, 10:36:32 AM »
crew of 5: Have the B hand the ball to the kicker, then go to R's restraining line, not K's. There is no need to have 2 officials' (U an and B) on the kicking team side of the ball; it would be much better for surprise onside kicks since if it is to B's side, they now have responsibility for touches, KCI, illegal blocks, possession, and sideline, with other officials not being able to really help out on those aspects a whole lot. Moving them to R's restraining doesn't get them extra eyes but it does position them better to see all the action occurring right on front of them, and not moving away from them.

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2025, 03:18:31 PM »
crew of 5: Have the B hand the ball to the kicker, then go to R's restraining line, not K's. There is no need to have 2 officials' (U an and B) on the kicking team side of the ball; it would be much better for surprise onside kicks since if it is to B's side, they now have responsibility for touches, KCI, illegal blocks, possession, and sideline, with other officials not being able to really help out on those aspects a whole lot. Moving them to R's restraining doesn't get them extra eyes but it does position them better to see all the action occurring right on front of them, and not moving away from them.

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/13724850/671158e6ab6580af593cf509

There is a good reason for two on the Team A’s restraining line. We need to ‘get’ any offside foul by Team A. If we get the offside, then everything else becomes secondary and somewhat moot. Regarding Team B’s restraining line and the ball, all we have to know is who touched the ball first, and where. Once we ‘clear’ the offside issue, then the near side official(s) can move on to the touching of the ball, and the far side official(s) can focus on early blocks by Team A.
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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2025, 04:24:13 PM »
That makes sense. Still not idea for onside kicks, but with 5, it is what it is, I guess.

Another (unrelated) idea: on free kicks, the wings that are deep stay 1 yard ahead of the pylon until they count 11, and signal the R as such. Once they have 11, they step back to their normal position. By moving ahead of the pylon, it is clear to the R that the relevant official has not completed counting and the ball should not be made ready for play.


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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2026, 04:27:52 PM »
Subvarsity mandatory running clock when 1 team is up my 30+. These subvarsity games are taking too long, players run oob on every play.

Curious if the switching after half  in 5 man mechanics stays.

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2026, 08:15:18 PM »
If you take it away for 5, take it away for 7. No real purpose to it and would reenforce consistency.

I’m fine leaving as is.

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2026, 09:07:55 PM »
As always, for all SV contests, chains are on home team sideline.

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2026, 10:12:39 PM »
As always, for all SV contests, chains are on home team sideline.

“As always”? What does that mean? Chains are operated on the side opposite the pressbox, regardless of level of play, and regardless of which side the home team occupies. If you are doing something else, you are not following TASO and (NCAA) mechanics, and I would ask, “Why?”

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2026, 09:19:26 AM »
Subvarsity mandatory running clock when 1 team is up my 30+. These subvarsity games are taking too long, players run oob on every play.

Curious if the switching after half  in 5 man mechanics stays.

I agree. There should be a mercy rule for subvarsity contests, because no good thing can happen in prolonging a one-sided freshman game when there is a JV game that is supposed to follow.

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2026, 02:06:48 PM »
After years of being solidly against one thing, I now foresee it as an option. The past couple of years I’ve noticed more and more Umpires being hit and/or run over.  Maybe moving the Umpire to the offensive side of the ball is something to consider.

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2026, 08:33:13 AM »
Maybe moving the Umpire to the offensive side of the ball is something to consider.

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2026, 10:51:52 AM »
In the traditional position of Umpire, there is UNIQUE opportunity to suggest, counsel, advise, remind both offensive & defensive linemen of expected decorum, rule specific objectives and responsibilities prior to potential violations from the current position that would NOT be available from the offensive backfield positioning, avoiding potential misapplication of rules. 

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2026, 01:42:08 PM »
After years of being solidly against one thing, I now foresee it as an option. The past couple of years I’ve noticed more and more Umpires being hit and/or run over.  Maybe moving the Umpire to the offensive side of the ball is something to consider.

Maybe having an Umpire who can move would help also!
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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2026, 09:26:22 PM »
After years of being solidly against one thing, I now foresee it as an option. The past couple of years I’ve noticed more and more Umpires being hit and/or run over.  Maybe moving the Umpire to the offensive side of the ball is something to consider.

For me it depends on how I am hit. O line pushing a d line into me, as long as I keep them off my toes I am fine. Line backer or someone sort of bumps me no problem.

Running back runs straight at me to use me as an extra blocker!! Now we got an issue.  In a 6 man game a few years ago I warned a player to not use me as a blocker because if I don't know where I can move I won't. If he makes contact with me he will get ejected for illegal contact of an official. I explained the same thing to the coach. He runs into me he is ejected. His job is to avoid me he knows where he is running the area I take up on a 6 man field isn't stopping them from running their Offense.

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2026, 07:14:16 PM »
Adopt NCAA timing rules. Keep our games moving in the right direction
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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2026, 08:25:54 PM »
Adopt NCAA timing rules. Keep our games moving in the right direction

And what direction is that?
Virtually ALL of the NCAA timing rules that have appeared in the last 20 years have been to give TV more advertising opportunity, without increasing overall total game time. They adopt a rule like not stopping the clock on first downs, but the total game time does not decrease, because, behind the curtain, they make commercial breaks longer.

None of the timing rules have any impact on player safety. All the NCAA - and TV - is doing is stealing the player’s time. Game time is the player’s time. Not our’s. Not the coaches’. Not the fans’/spectators’. The players’. Even in lopsided games, there are 2nd and 3rd team players that get some playing time that they don’t get in competitive games. Those kids that show up to practice every day and give their all, but just aren’t as talented, deserve the chance to have their families see them on the field and show their pride for their child(ren), even if only for a precious few minutes. Those players, and their families, will remember those few moments for their lifetimes.

Shortening of periods is already allowed. The UIL needs to strongly encourage reduced periods in lopsided games (but with a sensible minimum time - like 6 minutes per period). The bigger change the UIL needs to make is to formally allow for a “running clock,” and to tie a ‘running clock’ to requiring the teams to get all of their players some playing time. Up by at least 28 points after half-time, you must play your subs, and run the ball - no passing (when on offense). At the same time, the opponent has to play their 2nd/3rd team players. And the timing changes for a running clock need to be formalized. Out of bounds, first downs - keep running. Every thing else, follow regular timing.

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2026, 06:09:11 PM »
And what direction is that?
Virtually ALL of the NCAA timing rules that have appeared in the last 20 years have been to give TV more advertising opportunity, without increasing overall total game time. They adopt a rule like not stopping the clock on first downs, but the total game time does not decrease, because, behind the curtain, they make commercial breaks longer.

None of the timing rules have any impact on player safety. All the NCAA - and TV - is doing is stealing the player’s time. Game time is the player’s time. Not our’s. Not the coaches’. Not the fans’/spectators’. The players’. Even in lopsided games, there are 2nd and 3rd team players that get some playing time that they don’t get in competitive games. Those kids that show up to practice every day and give their all, but just aren’t as talented, deserve the chance to have their families see them on the field and show their pride for their child(ren), even if only for a precious few minutes. Those players, and their families, will remember those few moments for their lifetimes.

Shortening of periods is already allowed. The UIL needs to strongly encourage reduced periods in lopsided games (but with a sensible minimum time - like 6 minutes per period). The bigger change the UIL needs to make is to formally allow for a “running clock,” and to tie a ‘running clock’ to requiring the teams to get all of their players some playing time. Up by at least 28 points after half-time, you must play your subs, and run the ball - no passing (when on offense). At the same time, the opponent has to play their 2nd/3rd team players. And the timing changes for a running clock need to be formalized. Out of bounds, first downs - keep running. Every thing else, follow regular timing.

All good recommendations. I hope U.I.L./TASO/THSCA would hear some of these recommendations. I would like to see a running clock with first downs and runs out of bounds outside 2 minutes in each half just like NCAA.  I appreciate your recommedndations
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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2026, 07:10:11 PM »
I would like to see a running clock with first downs and runs out of bounds outside 2 minutes in each half just like NCAA.

Why?

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2026, 07:30:59 PM »
All good recommendations. I hope U.I.L./TASO/THSCA would hear some of these recommendations. I would like to see a running clock with first downs and runs out of bounds outside 2 minutes in each half just like NCAA.  I appreciate your recommedndations

I hope and pray we don't go running clock on first downs until inside 2 min. To Elvis' point, the timing changes made at NCAA were for TV's benefit, not the players. I feel like we have enough officials who just want a check and to get done asap, which robs the players of the playing time they've worked hard for. I would very much be against this timing change.

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2026, 09:32:22 PM »
I hope and pray we don't go running clock on first downs until inside 2 min. To Elvis' point, the timing changes made at NCAA were for TV's benefit, not the players. I feel like we have enough officials who just want a check and to get done asap, which robs the players of the playing time they've worked hard for. I would very much be against this timing change.

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2026, 11:12:11 AM »
AT the sub-varsity level, start the clock on setting of the ball after an incomplete pass. There is no reason for a 7th grade game to drag on forever because one or both teams continually throw the ball without the ability to complete them. Some districts do this but it should be statewide and mandatory.

At the varsity level, revert to the old position of the R on punts. Having them be five yards behind and wide of the punter leaves to much chance for us to be in the middle of the play. We can determine if the punter moves out of the tackle box or if the ball went 5 yards over their head without standing in that spot.

DO NOT shorten our game any more than it is. We already have just 12 min quarters and our game is not to long. To many officials try to shorten the game arbitrarily already by winding the clock on OOB plays when it should stop and by winding a first down as soon as the play is complete instead of waiting until the ball is set. If we want NCAA timing rules, then go to 15 min quarters. 

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2026, 11:25:00 AM »
If we want NCAA timing rules, then go to 15 min quarters.

I 100% support this, but I'd also want a commensurate increase in base pay to account for the extra time, and they must also put in place a mercy rule or rules around a running clock. I think if you're up by 35, it goes to running clock (or shortened periods), with clock only stopping for TIPS (Timeouts, Injuries, Penalties, and Scores)

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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2026, 04:13:43 PM »
Why?
To keep the game moving. Players, coaches, fans, and officials don’t enjoy a long game no matter how well the crew manages the game efficiently.
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Re: TASO Mechanics changes?
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2026, 05:58:33 PM »
CPF championship game seem to have more commercials than playing time. Every change of possession had 5 or 6 ads so the NCAA must need the money since ticket prices were off the charts.