TASO End of Year Forms

[TxSkyBolt]

Has anybody seen these yet?  Our chapter doesn't have them yet.

[GWK]

I complained about the lack of these last week in our chapter meeting.  It was a pet peeve of mine when I was chapter secretary that these forms never seemed to come out until way too late in the season to give the greatest chance of significant numbers of members turning them in on time.  The fact that these forms in this computer age are not available until the end of the season, when back in early SFOA days they were included as paper forms in the state meeting packet, gives a speck of credence to those who put TASO down.  Why give those types any club with which to slam TASO?

More to your point, our chapter prez e-mailed Fitch, who replied that he hoped to get the season summary forms out to the chapter secretaries by the middle of this week.   Hope all members have computers so the secretaries can spread them by e-mail or other electronic means, as we have already held our last chapter meeting.

[JasonTX]

Who needs forms this early?      We still have 6 more weeks of games left.   

[TXMike]

Why do you even need them?  According to ornery there will not be a TASO any more and UIL don't care squat about points.   

[Welpe]

Who needs forms this early?      We still have 6 more weeks of games left.   

Maybe for the Big Dawgs.     Roundball is already on my horizon.

[Birddog]

Who needs forms this early?      We still have 6 more weeks of games left.   

Like the way you are thinking Jason!

[rickref]

Like the way you are thinking Jason!

If you have 30 points in varisty now you can not claim the rest from playoffs so yeah you kinda do need a form.

[JasonTX]

If you have 30 points in varisty now you can not claim the rest from playoffs so yeah you kinda do need a form.

Perhaps for the jr. high playoffs?  What, you mean they don't do jr. high playoffs?  From all the yelling that goes on at these games, I assumed each of them were playing for a spot in the Super Bowl.   

[ljref86]

I heard there will be no restrictions on Varsity/College game points this year,ie 19 Varsity Games = 38 Points

[TXMike]

I heard there will be no restrictions on Varsity/College game points this year,ie 19 Varsity Games = 38 Points

That is the way it reads on the form.   http://www.safootballchapter.us/2010Points.pdf

[Welpe]

Any of you Division I's have any extra points you're not using?  I'm closing in on Division 3 but not quite there yet. 

[DallasLJ]

Any of you Division I's have any extra points you're not using?  I'm closing in on Division 3 but not quite there yet. 

  Have to save up my points until I join the 1,000 point club.  Getting closer year by year.

[rickref]

That is the way it reads on the form.   http://www.safootballchapter.us/2010Points.pdf

I left behind an arse load of points the last 4 years due to all my extra JUCO and play off games. Damn I wish they had this all a long. I am sure other guys are in same boat.

[HoustonUmp]

Welpe,

Under 1204 you can buy my points at $12 per, up to a total of $1200 to help your cause.  This transaction must take place before November 11, which is the scheduled date for the next ruling in the saga "Days of our TASO life".

I also have left quite a few points behind because of the limitations, while watching others get 30 points for driving to a  state meeting.  Always made me think you can go a long way without having to ever wash your knickers.

[Cooter]

First year is a while we haven't gotten a bump for going to state meeting.  I guess Dallas is too easy.

[TexDoc]

I've got 1300+ points.  I will sell 600 points to the highest bidder.

[Welpe]

Welpe,

Under 1204 you can buy my points at $12 per, up to a total of $1200 to help your cause.  This transaction must take place before November 11, which is the scheduled date for the next ruling in the saga "Days of our TASO life".

I also have left quite a few points behind because of the limitations, while watching others get 30 points for driving to a  state meeting.  Always made me think you can go a long way without having to ever wash your knickers.

Take a check?   

I was kind of hoping for some bonus points for the state meeting but at least I maxed out my education points.

[Etref]

That and the 3-4 years where we did not really keep our points when we had the "approved, registered" system. We had to reconstruct after the fact. But oh well, such is life.

[beaye1]

How can you get past years information if you do not have it.  I am missing year 1996 when I first started out in Abilene.  I have tried contacting them for this information with no luck.  I still have my SFOA card but no record of the games done that year. 

[rickref]

That and the 3-4 years where we did not really keep our points when we had the "approved, registered" system. We had to reconstruct after the fact. But oh well, such is life.

Ha ha , I remember that. I still kept a game log and record of test scores, and clinics.

[TexDoc]

One thing I learned a long time ago was to keep good records.  I have a binder with every year-end report I've ever turned in, and the list of games done.  I also keep a spreadsheet of every game I've ever worked, the score (for varsity) and who I worked it with.  Every Monday I enter the data from the previous week.

[Coby]

I think the point that needs to be made here is why do we do this on paper every year?  How hard is it to create a google document to turn this in on?  Speaking of google documents.  I put this one together first off for a class I am taking, secondly because I may need a new person on my crew soon, and third I am interested in the data.  If you get a chance look at it and add comments in the comments section on what other questions to ask?  I am trying to determine factors that develop crew effectiveness.  https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDVDR3hqQ0puWDYyQkFwNHJvYXNpdWc6MQ

If anyone would like access to the results then PM me.

[fencewire]

I think the point that needs to be made here is why do we do this on paper every year?

I do see some benefit of having this filled out by the individual member, turning into the chapter, and then to state, but how hard would it be to have this where the local chapter could get a "report" of what was entered to enter locally into ZW etc, the same reason that TASO is still using the intra-focus website, even though it was supposed to "go away" after the testing this year and I would guess it will still be there next year.  Technology is not our friend. 

Having to call someone or send an email to reset a pw on a web site...   

and that is just a start...

[TexDoc]

I think there is a concern, and a valid one, that the reports may not be completely accurate should the officials turn them in directly to the state.  My chapter, this year, is not even allowing us to fill in the points on the form.  They will pull our game reports from Arbiter and the division reps will fill out the game points.  That tells you how much distrust there is allowing officials to self report.  But, that's something that is a lot more prevalent in the present chapter than the one I was in a few years ago.

What bothers me with this scenario is that I'm supposed to sign the blank report before turning it in.  I would have thought my signature is what confirmed that what I was reporting is accurate.

[TXMike]

I think the point that needs to be made here is why do we do this on paper every year?  How hard is it to create a google document to turn this in on?  Speaking of google documents.  I put this one together first off for a class I am taking, secondly because I may need a new person on my crew soon, and third I am interested in the data.  If you get a chance look at it and add comments in the comments section on what other questions to ask?  I am trying to determine factors that develop crew effectiveness.  https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dDVDR3hqQ0puWDYyQkFwNHJvYXNpdWc6MQ

If anyone would like access to the results then PM me.

Like it or not, our organization is not made up of a sufficient number of folks who are   computer literate enough or who have sufficient computer access that this can be done electronically.  I am all for "digitizing" where possible but this paper form is pretty freaking simple so I don't see what efficiencies are gained by replacing it with an internet-based form.