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Deadball Unsportsmanlike - Tauntiing on 4th Down
« on: December 09, 2011, 11:03:45 AM »
This may have been discussed, if so I apologize in advance, but  did a search and did not find anything.

Play -  4th down, QB is sacked.  After the sack the B player taunts. 

By rule this is B's ball -15  (AR 10.1.5.I), but some say this has been interpreted as A's ball because its taunting, with an auto 1st...  If this is true, can anyone point me in that direction...
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Re: Deadball Unsportsmanlike - Tauntiing on 4th Down
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2011, 11:10:49 AM »
You're right: A's series is over prior to the dead-ball foul, and you have the A.R. to prove it.

The idea of an automatic first down was never intended to turn dead-ball fouls into live-ball fouls. That provision of the penalty cannot be enforced in this kind of case, so it lapses. :shrug:

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Re: Deadball Unsportsmanlike - Tauntiing on 4th Down
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2011, 05:19:47 PM »
The rule language says "auto first for Team B fouls if not in conflict with other rules", and in this case it conflicts with the rule that says that Team A loses possession if they haven't made the line to gain when 4th down ends.