2012 TASO Football State Meeting

[beaye1]

That's why they are listed on the points sheet under "State Meeting Bonus Points" right? 

It's semantics really, I think it's pretty well understood if you go to a State Meeting you're probably going to be attending most of those sessions anyways.

Giving out these points after the fact just seems pointless to me. It's basically dangling a carrot for next year's participation but who knows what will happen next year. They may not give any points for McAllen. They may give out 30. They may give out 18 but only to Division III, IV or V officials. That's what doesn't make sense to me.

I'll just say that I am just the messenger.  It was not told to us as "bonus points"  but to prevent limiting people on the amount of training points they could receive as based on the sheet that is turned in they may have counted it as such.  I do remember the form having points for each class and getting credit for what meeting you attended and not just blanket points for just showing up.  I attend the meetings hoping to get something new each year whatever it may be.  I also get to see people from other chapters that I have met before(shout out to the Amarillo boys and Julian in McAllen), see old friends from other chapters(Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston) and meet new people from others.  Plus, since I retired from the military and don't go TDY as often, this allows me to get away when I get the chance to a different city when I can.

[Coby]

Bring back a quarter of a point for youth league games. Or The Approved, Registed, and Certified.  How about to be elidgible for playoffs games you must attend the state meeting (that will boost attendance).  Honestly though after thinking about everything I like the idea of a meeting every 5 years and redo the TASO website to have better training materials.

[Etref]

The video conferencing would be a better idea. Have the State Meeting for those who can and want to attend and simulcast to several areas around the state for all others. Let it take the place of Regional clinics and everyone must attend to be in good standing. For the few who cannot make it on that particular date, tape it and have them watch it later.

[williebe]

I wonder if they will tell us at the state meeting this year that the TASO web site will be changing?

[fencewire]

That have been saying that for at least 3 years.  Whoever they contracted to do that should be ashamed, if it ever even got that far 

[rsquare]

Each district can have their own golf tourney, ZebraLope, bowling tourney, washer pitch off or whatever they wish to organize...and we can do like the schools now...all that register are winners

[Joe Stack]

Or The Approved, Registed, and Certified. 

This is/was a dumb idea. 5 divisions makes the most sense. I might adjust the point totals a little but overall its sound. I do think HS subvarsity games should be worth more than Jr. high games, if for no other reason than the game timing.

Guys leaving Texas for other states have great documentation. Many coming in here have lousy documentation of their games. So we're doing something right.

[TexDoc]

I agree about doing an adjustment.  Back when I started we had sv games on Thu and Sat.  Now you can work them 6 days a week.  Points are much easier to accumulate now.  A D1 official should have at least 12 to 14 years of experience, minimum. 

[Headlinesman]

Yes Doc, but if you remember the old SFOA days, the major conundrum was to work college ball, you had to be in div. 1, but to get in div. 1, you had to earn college points (talk about driving you cross-eyed!)- so in retrospect, we actually have come a long way!

[TexDoc]

Yes Doc, but if you remember the old SFOA days, the major conundrum was to work college ball, you had to be in div. 1, but to get in div. 1, you had to earn college points (talk about driving you cross-eyed!)- so in retrospect, we actually have come a long way!

True, and that requirement was complete and utter BS.  We are strictly a high school officiating organization now and our leaders must always keep that foremost in their minds.  Some things are certainly better, no doubt.  I sure would not want to go back to how we scheduled games when I started, before we used computers.  It was a notebook and chalkboard.  They yelled out what games were available, you yelled out if you could make it then hope the other two guys showed up because you didn't know who was supposed to be there. 

Yes, many things are much better.

[Welpe]

Guys leaving Texas for other states have great documentation. Many coming in here have lousy documentation of their games. So we're doing something right.

I had every game documented for tax purposes when I moved here so it was very easy to get transfer points. I do wonder what some official's tax returns look like especially when they start complaining about getting 1099s. 

[Joe Stack]

A D1 official should have at least 12 to 14 years of experience, minimum.

Its near impossible to make DI with less than 11 years. Yeah, on paper with bonus points and specific game and education points mapped out, you can find a way to do it in 9, but reality sets in -- work, injuries, not as many assignments as expected, missed state/regional meetings, etc. And you're not going to find many D1s without 15 years of experience.

[secondeagle]

I attended the last meeting in McAllen, the facilities were great and that was the extent of it. Guess that was last year of the "coaches", but overall every thing else was horrible. The eating places were terrible, will not ever attend another meeting in McAllen.

As for points, they do not count in our chapter, so why worry about it. Just worry how to get in with the "inner circle".

[backjudge85]

Just out of curosity, what chapter are you in where division points don't count?

[Arbitrator]

 

So is 30 TASO educational points still on the table for all of the people who attend this years McAllen State Meeting; strictly as a matter of helping to prime the pump to help enrich attendance?

[secondeagle]

Rather not say as we have folks on this board, but promise you that points do not make a hill of beans in good ole chapter. I do not know how to PM if there is such a thing.

[Welpe]

Arbitrator I've heard that there aren't going to be bonus points. Not sure how true that is.

[JasonTX]

Arbitrator I've heard that there aren't going to be bonus points. Not sure how true that is.

You get 1 point for each hour of classroom session you attend.  That is the bonus.  All future State Meetings are apparently going to follow the same points structure. 

[Arbitrator]

Arbitrator I've heard that there aren't going to be bonus points. Not sure how true that is.

You get 1 point for each hour of classroom session you attend.  That is the bonus.  All future State Meetings are apparently going to follow the same points structure. 

 

Sorry guys! Haven't been keeping you a lot of company lately, dealing with both my collegiate and high school son's. Heck, he ain't even high school any more! The little one just got back from Rome and then graduated on me, so I've been busier than a one-legged man at a butt-kicking! I even got out and worked a Spring game!

From what I hear, I do believe that Jason's info is factual. But I'll dig a tad deeper and and report back! Time for us all to start conditioning~especially me! Football season is less than 90 days away! 

[Welpe]

That makes sense Jason, thanks.

Not sure the trip to McAllen will be worth it for me this year.

And it is still baseball season for me. I've barely thought about football.

[rsquare]

Got all but 1 of my crew going - even 6th man   
Flying in SW and squeezing in rental car 
Most memorable part of these meetings is recognizing the group from Japan.
Got to meet them years back and enjoyed visiting. 
90% of the time at the state meeting the speaker on stage during general meeting is barely audible.
Oh yes let's not forget the ZebraLope and Golf tourney awards
Yea all we need is another coaches forum to put us out in oblivion
Hospitality tents rank OK - some of the breakouts are OK
Just need to cut out reading the powerpoints and intergrate more film in sessions 
The coming fashion trend of black shorts/white stripes could be the keynote of the Prez's address

[texref]

Got all but 1 of my crew going - even 6th man   
Flying in SW and squeezing in rental car 
Most memorable part of these meetings is recognizing the group from Japan.
Got to meet them years back and enjoyed visiting. 
90% of the time at the state meeting the speaker on stage during general meeting is barely audible.
Oh yes let's not forget the ZebraLope and Golf tourney awards
Yea all we need is another coaches forum to put us out in oblivion
Hospitality tents rank OK - some of the breakouts are OK
Just need to cut out reading the powerpoints and intergrate more film in sessions 
The coming fashion trend of black shorts/white stripes could be the keynote of the Prez's address

rsquare.....the RGV guys will be running regular shuttles from Harlingen airport to the hotels. Might not need that rent car.

I guess that everyone has their own thoughts about the value of the various sessions each year. I enjoyed hearing from the Coaches and having a better understanding of the schemes (sp?) they run and what they look for from us. That doesn't mean I agree but I always like to know so I can better deal with them during the game. Just one man's opinion.

I am looking forward to being there.

[rsquare]

Thanks for insight.
I knew they ran shuttles last time also.
I would like the coaches to directly addressed new POE's and rule changes etc and their thinking.
Also to really get a feel of pre game expectations and timing etc.
Did have one coach admit in a  clinic earlier this year how he try to "sneakingly get away with substitutions."
Hiding a couple on side on field at last possible moment.
BBW is also a controversial matter for coach's discussion to.

[TxSkyBolt]

Does anyone remember the panel of coaches they had, I think it was in Arlington.  They had a middle school coach on the panel.  The guy was clueless.  He even said at one point, I just started coaching and barely know what I'm doing, so I doubt I can be of much help up here.  Wow.  I guess I am just one of those people who sees no value at all on the coach sessions.  I'd much rather listen to Rogers or even Red Cashion or anyone with officiating experience talk about officiating than hear what coaches think we should do.

 

[Coby]

For what it is worth I am giving the HUDL breakout presentation on Sunday from I think 9 to 10:30.  I have about 30 video clips and will show you how you too can access these video clips plus 1000's more for training purposes.  That is the plan at least.  We all know how technology goes.

I am basically giving the same presentation here in Houston this weekend.  Feel free to list any feed back on here or email me or PM me.