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Offline TXMike

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Playing Without Helmet
« on: December 26, 2012, 06:14:08 AM »
This play was on Rom Gilbert's page this week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLyKAwyszi4

Looks like the player went beyond the "immediate continuing action" to make a hit.  This is probably precisely the kind of play the rule change was trying to prevent.  Anyone think otherwise?

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Re: Playing Without Helmet
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2012, 06:42:33 AM »
I agree. Should they have had a flag for illegal hands to the face? It wasn't a sustained hit but it did cause the helmet to come off. If his helmet comes off that easy it is too loose and a foul would bail him out. He's going to sit anyway so that's not an issue.

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Re: Playing Without Helmet
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2012, 08:01:43 AM »
if they had a flag, he wouldn't sit, right? The penalty being what caused the helmet to fly?

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Re: Playing Without Helmet
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2012, 08:25:33 AM »
He would not have to go out for losing the helmet if it was lost due to foul.  But if I saw him hit another player's helmet with his bare head as he did and then react like he did, I would probably have him go out for a down due to injury. 

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Re: Playing Without Helmet
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2012, 12:00:24 PM »
Seems like to me A68 earned at least 1 flag on the play.  He grabs but few officials would call that Holding.  As for the Hands to the Facemask.  Looks like to me his hands are on the mask for at least a couple seconds and they cause the helmet to come off.  Personally, I think that has to be called.  I'm not criticizing the on field officials btw, I've missed plenty of calls in my career.  The defensive player seems to cringe just before contact knowing he's about to take a serious blow to the head.  He knows he shouldn't be in on this play so yes, I think it's exactly the kind of play the rule was meant to prevent.  I doubt too many of the kids (and even coaches) know this rule though.

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Re: Playing Without Helmet
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2012, 03:56:21 PM »
I have 3 fouls on the play A68 for F/mask & B93 for continuing action after the helmet came off both are live ball fouls and offset, and I have a dead ball foul on A52 for UNR (or is that being too picky ?)

I would also send A68 off until cleared by medical personnel as he hit his head without a helmet.
« Last Edit: December 26, 2012, 06:05:48 PM by Aussie-Zebra »
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Re: Playing Without Helmet
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2012, 07:46:32 PM »
At the 0:35 mark, suspect 5 (or even 6) in the backfield, too.
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