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Tommyjohn44

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I caught this one during the FSSW replay this morning but didnt have time to screen cap it before leaving for work.

Just before halftime, Georgetown lined up in a very strange formation that didn't look quite right to me.  After they shifted multiple men, they had their LT (numbered between 50-79) off the LOS on the left side. They had their TE (lined up as a RT to complete the 5 man line) on the LOS.  They also had 2 WR's on the LOS to the right of the TE.  The end WR goes out for a pass as does the TE.  The ball is thrown beyond the LOS, DPI is called on Guyer for contacting the TE with the ball in the air, and Georgetown gets to kick a FG before the half with no time left on the clock.

Does anybody still have video of this or remember the play I'm talking about?  It seemed to me that there were multiple things wrong with this play that weren't called.

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Re: weird formation in Georgetown/Denton Guyer game just before halftime
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 02:43:04 PM »
I have the clip.

1st and G at the 2.  :05 in 2d period.   From left to right, they had 5   57  9  and 38 clearly in backfield.  From left to right they had 85 66 54 62 72 2 and 19, all on the line, (85 and 19 were ends, 85 was also the snapper)   5, 85 and 19 went out for a pass.  2 stayed behind the LOS.  QB dropped back and threw to 85.  DB had a hand on 85's lower back and barely grasped the jersey.  Did not appear to slow 85 down at all.  QB was under great pressure so his pass was not well thrown either.  B flagged and DPI was announced. 

Team A then had the 1st and G at the 1 and was going to run a play.  Not part of this clip but if memory serves, A false started and after the step off to the 6, A kicked the FG.

Clearly an illegal formation on the initial play.  The DPI will be supported by some and not by others.  But ha dthe illegal formation been called, the penalties would have offset and A would still get a play.

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Re: weird formation in Georgetown/Denton Guyer game just before halftime
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012, 03:14:01 PM »
There was no time left on the clock when Team A false started, correct?

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Re: weird formation in Georgetown/Denton Guyer game just before halftime
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2012, 05:35:35 PM »
No  They were already runing an untimed down as time expired during the play with the DPI

The DPI/Illegal Formation play

http://youtu.be/p1g7IcSp6f8


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Re: weird formation in Georgetown/Denton Guyer game just before halftime
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2012, 07:05:59 PM »
Pretty weak DPI call.
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Re: weird formation in Georgetown/Denton Guyer game just before halftime
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2012, 10:48:18 PM »
I remember they asked the Guyer Coach what he thought about it and he said something to the effect of, Do you mean the first time they got it wrong or the second time when they ran another play?  Not that he was right, but pretty entertaining.

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Re: weird formation in Georgetown/Denton Guyer game just before halftime
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2012, 05:20:27 AM »
His comments are at the end.

http://youtu.be/IlJuRYbASAk

He may have been given some bad info by an official to think the 10 second subtraction rule used in NCAA (bu not in Tx HS ) would have made the result any different.

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Re: weird formation in Georgetown/Denton Guyer game just before halftime
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2012, 04:02:15 PM »
Good work Mike.  During the online chat, seemed most people did not like the DPI call.

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Re: weird formation in Georgetown/Denton Guyer game just before halftime
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2013, 12:14:32 PM »
The interesting thing about that video is that from the initial camera angle (live play), it looked like it MIGHT have been DPI. Then, the replay showed it probably wasn't, but from a view that was much closer to that of the calling official, albeit at a slower speed.