Author Topic: Think You Have Seen Everything? (Read 14041 times)

TXMike · « **on:** October 27, 2014, 10:23:36 PM »

And the better question is...how would you handle?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pDYKB0sKVs&feature=youtu.be

No wonder so many coaches have premature gray or premature balding.

Legacy Zebra · « **Reply #1 on:** October 27, 2014, 10:29:04 PM »

I...I don't even know what to say. I mean, I've got a false start. But beyond that, I don't even know what they could possibly be doing here.

TXMike · « **Reply #2 on:** October 27, 2014, 10:32:54 PM »

Can you have a false start when there is no snapper?

TxSkyBolt · « **Reply #3 on:** October 27, 2014, 10:42:24 PM »

Sure you can

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Legacy Zebra · « **Reply #4 on:** October 27, 2014, 10:44:37 PM »

They are in formation and movement by one or more players simulates the start of the play. 7-1-2-b-1.

TXMike · « **Reply #5 on:** October 27, 2014, 10:48:22 PM »

How do you have a formation without a snapper?

Legacy Zebra · « **Reply #6 on:** October 27, 2014, 11:05:06 PM »

Seeing as there is no definition for "scrimmage formation", why would it matter if we don't have a snapper as defined by the book?

goodgrr · « **Reply #7 on:** October 28, 2014, 04:27:37 AM »

False start on the snapper :-)

bama_stripes · « **Reply #8 on:** October 28, 2014, 08:00:15 AM »

Cranial flatulence. 5 yds, down remains the same.

IAUMP · « **Reply #9 on:** October 28, 2014, 10:00:47 AM »

There is a player over the ball, thus I would call him the snapper. Unfortunately, it appears that he forgot to place his hand on the ball and snap it. I would guess that his is not normally a snapper and simply forgot his new duties.

TXMike · « **Reply #10 on:** October 28, 2014, 10:50:08 AM »

If that player who you are calling the snapper got up and left and went to a different position would you have a flag?

TxSkyBolt · « **Reply #11 on:** October 28, 2014, 01:43:30 PM »

Quote from: TXMike on October 27, 2014, 10:48:22 PM

How do you have a formation without a snapper?

7-1-4-a (formation) doesn't mention a requirement for a snapper.

JasonTX · « **Reply #12 on:** October 28, 2014, 04:59:13 PM »

In order to have a false start the ball has to be ready for play. (7-1-3)

Seems illogical that if the ball isn't placed on the ground by an official with its long axis parallel to the sideline that it could be ready for play.

I have nothing.

TxSkyBolt · « **Reply #13 on:** October 28, 2014, 08:27:59 PM »

I don't understand what you're your saying Jason? Was the ball not RFP when this occurred?

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Joe Stack · « **Reply #14 on:** October 28, 2014, 09:31:59 PM »

The ball is there. The guy nearest it isn't touching it.

JasonTX · « **Reply #15 on:** October 28, 2014, 09:58:02 PM »

Quote from: TxSkyBolt on October 28, 2014, 08:27:59 PM

I don't understand what you're your saying Jason? Was the ball not RFP when this occurred?

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Being that my video isn't clear I was assuming by the title of the youtube video that the ball wasn't there. If the ball was in fact there, then false start. A false start can still happen without a snapper, but encroachment would not be possible without the snapper touching the ball.

mishatx · « **Reply #16 on:** October 28, 2014, 10:14:20 PM »

I can't see his number or his hands (I am assuming they are at or below his knees, based on where his right hand seems to come from), but I'm pretty sure the guy to the right of #70 meets the definition of a snapper.

clearwall · « **Reply #17 on:** October 31, 2014, 02:56:31 PM »

The funniest part about this is that even the C, who KNOWS he doesnt have his hand on the ball, false starts as well.

Kalle · « **Reply #18 on:** October 31, 2014, 03:40:58 PM »

I really would like to see "scrimmage formation" defined in the 2015 rule book...

Rostrom · « **Reply #19 on:** November 01, 2014, 11:04:07 AM »

2010 Rules book;
7-1-3-a-3 No player of the offensive team shall be in or beyond the neutral zone
after the snapper touches or simulates (hand at or below his knees)
touching the ball [Exceptions: (1) The snapper (Rule 7-1-3-b-3);
(2) Substitutes and departing players; and (3) offensive players in a
scrimmage kick formation who, after the snapper touches the ball,
point at opponents and break the neutral zone with their hand(s)] [S7
and S19].

2010 Rules book;
7-1-3-a-4-b
(b) A shift or movement that simulates the beginning of a play.
This includes the snapper who, after assuming a position for the
succeeding snap and touching or simulating (hand at or below
his knees) touching the ball, moves to another position.

Author Topic: Think You Have Seen Everything? (Read 14041 times)

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