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Online ETXZebra

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TASO Test 2015
« on: July 28, 2015, 10:29:36 AM »
Did I misunderstand or did they say the test would be posted Monday, July 27?????
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2015, 10:48:58 AM »
I heard that it would be "early next week"...so anytime before EOD Wed would probably qualify.
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2015, 11:11:50 AM »
I received an email stating it would be available Wednesday, July 29th.
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2015, 11:01:56 PM »
For the life of me I don't get why there seems to be such a strong "need" around the state that the test be out "right now".  There may be some legitimate reasons, i.e. maybe a Chapter has established some requirements that require a test score before they can do something.  If that is the case then I understand.  But if there is nothing like that, what does it matter?  The test bank has grown considerably and requires vetting to make sure everything is in accordance with the latest editorial changes and rule changes.  And it requires more than one person looking at it to make sure this gets done. Past tests have been pushed out at times without complete vetting only to result in mistakes being found and then complicated adjustments being made to all the tests taken with a certain question.

And since most guys do not even have a rulebook to refer to, I would think most guys would want to wait anyway. 
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2015, 07:50:26 PM »
The test is up. Just took it.

I disagree with Mike. I want to get this stuff out of the way as soon as possible. Due to the way we assign scrimmages, we're still waiting for that to get sorted out. Plus, I'm going to give a presentation at a meeting in a week or two, so I want to concentrate on that.

I used to have recurring nightmares about being in school and and totally forgetting that I had a particular class, then finding out about the final too late. This was after I graduated (and such never actually happened). If I didn't get the test done soon after it came out, I might have similar nightmares! But that's just me.
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2015, 08:13:30 PM »
Any questions you question?
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2015, 09:34:31 PM »
You mean other than the 40 I missed?

What I forgot to mention earlier is I need all the time I can get to pass!!
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2015, 07:10:13 AM »
Quote from: Joe Stack on July 30, 2015, 09:34:31 PM
What I forgot to mention earlier is I need all the time I can get to pass!!
Time in the rule book helps solve that problem.  :sTiR:
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2015, 11:33:42 AM »
My only complaint would be could you bold the words behind or beyond.    ;D ;D those trip me up sometimes..... LOL   test was fine, no issues
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2015, 12:15:08 PM »
Clarification on 4th down fumble rule: (correct me if Im wrong)

--on a muff or backward pass, the ball remains live even if a Team A player (other than fumbler) possesses the ball

--on an actual fumble, only the fumbler may recover and advance.  Any other Team A player that possesses the ball causes it to become dead.

correct?
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2015, 12:24:06 PM »
10-4  (And then ball may have to be moved depending on where it was recovered)
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2015, 12:43:37 PM »
See...this is how fried my brain is...when you said 10-4, I started for my rule book....
 
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2015, 02:10:39 PM »
One thing that many tend to forget with the 4th down fumble rule is that a loss of player possession on an attempted hand off is a fumble by the last player in possession. I had a play in a jr high game last year that illustrated this point. It was 4th and 1 and the QB and RB missed the exchange and the ball bounced forward and the RB fell on it beyond the line to gain. But by rule it was a fumble by the QB and had to be brought back to the spot of the fumble and turned over to Team B since that was behind the line to gain.
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2015, 01:11:49 AM »
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Any questions you question?

Not a question, but the explanation to an answer. The answer, and particularly the explanation run contrary to one of this year's new AR's. Are we allowed to post specific questions here? I don't want to say more than I should since the test is still being taken by many.
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2015, 08:41:32 AM »
I would say, go ahead and post the questions. It will only help everyone to begin discussions. I for one would like to see the discussion. I'm sort of a newbie.
Thanks for the comments.
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2015, 10:42:10 AM »
Quote from: Legacy Zebra on August 04, 2015, 01:11:49 AM
Not a question, but the explanation to an answer. The answer, and particularly the explanation run contrary to one of this year's new AR's. Are we allowed to post specific questions here? I don't want to say more than I should since the test is still being taken by many.

My understanding is that there is a larger bank of test questions than just the 50 you get on one instance of the test.  If you have a specific question that warrants discussion, I see no issue.  That is no different than a crew getting together and taking the test together while discussing/talking through the questions...The purpose of the test is to push us deeper into our rulebook.  #missionaccomplished.
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2015, 03:44:44 PM »
OK, I have a question about the test;

"Prior to kickoff of a game the Referee may elect to equally reduce the 4 quarters of playing time due to the report of a storm with lightening approaching the field."

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The explanation given is 3-2-2.

I don't see where a R has the authority to equally reduce the 4 quarters of the game due to a storm approaching. The rule only states "darkness".

Maybe a learned person can direct me to where in the rulebook I can find the "storm with lightening approaching" scenario.  ???
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2015, 04:07:22 PM »
It's an editorial change in the 2015 book. 3-2-2 now reads "darkness or other conditions".
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2015, 05:02:15 PM »
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Before the game starts, playing time and the intermission between halves may be shortened by the referee if he is of the opinion that darkness or other conditions may interfere with the game

This is straight out of the rule, Phantom, so I'm not sure what your confusion is over.
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2015, 05:15:05 PM »
I missed this one too but it was because I was trying to do it the first time without the book...I thought that the R would need agreement by both head coaches.
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2015, 09:02:11 AM »
Any word on the "New Members" Test?
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2015, 10:37:44 AM »
"A19 on the opening kickoff surprises the receiving team by kicking the ball into the ground. B82 is positioned to recover the ball at the A-49 after it has bounced twice, when he is contacted by A32 as A32 subsequently recovers the kick."

I have no KCI because the ball bounced twice.
 
6-4-1-f   "During a free kick a player of the receiving team in position to receive the
ball has the same kick-catch and fair-catch protection whether the ball is
kicked directly off the tee or is immediately driven to the ground, strikes the
ground once and goes into the air in the manner of the ball kicked directly
off the tee."


Dead ball when recovered by kicking team.  Anyone have something different?
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2015, 12:02:58 PM »
You are correct, ball dead when recovered by Team A.  But, ball did not travel 10 yards before touched by Team A.  Illegal touching.
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2015, 12:40:55 PM »
Ahhh...I read A-49, but my head was thinking on B's side of the restraining line.  Thanks!
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Re: TASO Test 2015
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2015, 10:20:07 AM »
Dead-ball fouls by opposing teams do not offset. When the order of occurrence can be determined, the penalties are enforced in that order.

True

False (correct answer)

What about FS on team A and USC on team B? Offset these? Not a good question in MHO (as an educator)
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