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Offline Kalle

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Re: FG play
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2016, 01:05:20 PM »
Quote from: dvasques on May 24, 2016, 12:54:33 PM
My question now would be if the illegal kick by B is considered to be a foul by the team with possesion or not

See rule 10-2-3-b. And IT IS NOT AN ILLEGAL KICK, IT IS ILLEGALLY KICKING THE BALL. Sorry, I'll get off the soap box now.
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Re: FG play
« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2016, 01:36:46 PM »
I am in agreement with you now.  I had to diagram it out.  Your interpretation is correct.  In my mind I had B kicking the ball backward which would have been over A's goal line.  That really made no sense. 

It was bad reading on my part and then stubbornness kicked in.
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Re: FG play
« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2016, 01:43:48 PM »
Quote from: Johnponz on May 24, 2016, 01:36:46 PM
I am in agreement with you now.  I had to diagram it out.  Your interpretation is correct.  In my mind I had B kicking the ball backward which would have been over A's goal line.  That really made no sense. 

It was bad reading on my part and then stubbornness kicked in.

No worries bro.  This is how we get better.
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Re: FG play
« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2016, 05:20:58 PM »
OP: "4/G at B4.  Score tied.  A3 FG attempt is blocked, doesn't cross neutral zone.  Ball at the B5, B33 kicks the loose ball into B's end zone."

Are you telling us B33 kicks the ball 95 yards into his own end zone? What am I missing here?
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Re: FG play
« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2016, 06:16:16 PM »
That was the mistake I made until I diagramed it out.  B's end zone is 5 yards away. It is the end zone A is kicking toward of course. It is A's end zone that is 95 yards away.  I felt foolish when I realized my mistake.
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Re: FG play
« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2016, 07:12:53 PM »
Quote from: Johnponz on May 24, 2016, 06:16:16 PM
That was the mistake I made until I diagramed it out.  B's end zone is 5 yards away. It is the end zone A is kicking toward of course. It is A's end zone that is 95 yards away.  I felt foolish when I realized my mistake.
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Re: FG play
« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2016, 01:57:57 PM »
Quote from: Kalle on May 24, 2016, 01:05:20 PM
See rule 10-2-3-b. And IT IS NOT AN ILLEGAL KICK, IT IS ILLEGALLY KICKING THE BALL. Sorry, I'll get off the soap box now.

Sorry Kyle, and thanks

illegally kicking the ball

And the doubt was related to the whole confusion about the ball having crossed or not the NZ

But thanks again for the call and for the help
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Re: FG play
« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2016, 04:24:34 PM »
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And the doubt was related to the whole confusion about the ball having crossed or not the NZ


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This illustrates one of the differences between the way we treat kicks vs passes.  If a pass is tipped in or behind the NZ and subsequently crosses the NZ, the pass has not crossed the NZ by rule.  Not so with a kick.  If a kick gets past the NZ, it has crossed the NZ.  May not have been touched beyond the NZ as yet, but it has crossed it.
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