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Re: UIL Hats...to wear or not to wear, that is the argument.
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2010, 10:51:18 PM »
You always have the choice to walk away with no yearly requirement.  No one holds a gun to your head making you call or not call.  They may hold a hat with a goofy patch to your head, but you always have the choice.  
No I ment I still love it I haven't done it so long that I have accomplished all i want to accomplish. I have a great chapter great crew and i would miss it too much. The only yearly requirement I have is self imposed.
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« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2010, 08:43:10 AM »
When are organizers going to learn to supply hats that are actually made for football officials?  It's not that hard to put a logo on a black/white stiped hat.  With the advent of the flex hats, it is also sacrilige to use those hats with the old adjustable bands at the back. The FHSAA supplies hats here for the finals and are all Richardson flex hats with a tasteful FHSAA logo on the front and a mini FHSAA logo on the back at the bottom.  I also don't get how coaches get to pick playoff crews, but that's a topic for another time.

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« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2010, 09:00:15 AM »
Coaches are king in Texas. That is just how it works.

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Re: UIL Hats...to wear or not to wear, that is the argument.
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2010, 09:24:42 AM »
When are organizers going to learn to supply hats that are actually made for football officials?  It's not that hard to put a logo on a black/white stiped hat.  With the advent of the flex hats, it is also sacrilige to use those hats with the old adjustable bands at the back. The FHSAA supplies hats here for the finals and are all Richardson flex hats with a tasteful FHSAA logo on the front and a mini FHSAA logo on the back at the bottom.  I also don't get how coaches get to pick playoff crews, but that's a topic for another time.

From what I could tell the hats they gave the crew were the flex hats as one of the guys had to keep pulling at his to keep it on and comfortable.
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« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2010, 09:25:25 AM »
Coaches are king in Texas. That is just how it works.
Coaches (schools) are the employers paying our fees.  Why would they not get the choice.  Better than having some organization making the selection -- where the politics of the selection are more in play.

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« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2010, 09:35:55 AM »
Coaches (schools) are the employers paying our fees.  Why would they not get the choice.  Better than having some organization making the selection -- where the politics of the selection are more in play.

Because there are no politics involved with coaches choosing right?   ;)

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« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2010, 10:19:49 AM »
The current alternative to coach selection is UIL selection.  "Coach, who do you want?"

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« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2010, 10:22:28 AM »
Because there are no politics involved with coaches choosing right?   ;)

There is no ideal or equitable option available. Right now the coaches decide on what crew they want. If left to an organization (local chapter) it may be a fair process and it may not. Someone will always feel they are getting slighted no matter what system we have in place.

I would rather have the coaches select the crews or officials they want than have UIL or even TASO make the selection. If you do a good job the coaches will want to use you again. You do not have to kiss their butt or favor them. Just be business like, hustle and be consistent. They may not like all of the calls but they can still like you and your crew.

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« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2010, 10:50:26 AM »
Spot on Rick.


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« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2010, 11:18:32 AM »
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I couldn't agree more, Gentlemen! TASO has never lent itself, at least in my 31 years of experience, to get involved in the game assignment process. That has been solely left to the participating schools and to their coaches. The UIL has traditionally been there if there was some disagreement between the schools in regard to questions about racial makeup of a crew, et. al. The UIL's traditional stance was to take that request from the schools and the UIL then submitted that request to a TASO Chapter that could adequately meet those requirements.

Now they are wanting the local Chapters to submit a list of their top 25% crews.(based on exactly what criteria, I do not know!) Like in basketball and baseball, the UIL wants to somehow have that "list" in hand so they can solely make the selections, more especially in the state semifinals and finals. Football in Texas has a long and storied history of always allowing the coaches to mutually agree upon a Chapter or a particular crew of officials to work their game. Like TASO, I hope the UIL will always keep this option open to the coaches. For them not to do so will, no doubt, begin to splinter their already fragile relationships with the Texas State Coaches!   z^

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Re: UIL Hats...to wear or not to wear, that is the argument.
« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2010, 11:31:01 AM »
I brought up this "Top 25%" BS before  http://www.refstripes.com/forum/index.php?topic=6960.0

A lot of the guys that are so anxious to sign on with this bunch don't understand where this is headed, or could be headed.  If your chapter does not put you in the "top 25%" list or you do not meet one of the "diversity" standards, you could eventually get taken out of playoffs totally.  I am not necessarily against having a "Top 25%" but to have one requires a much better vetting/evaluation system than any Chapter in this state has right now.

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« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2010, 12:47:29 PM »
and chose to wear the quite spectacular UIL hats

I bet there is an UIL patch on Ornery's dunce cap..... any takers

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« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2010, 04:11:58 PM »
How about those Ft. Worth boys and those caps!

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« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2010, 04:24:17 PM »
My goodness.....

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« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2010, 04:30:53 PM »
where can I watch this on the web?

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« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2010, 04:32:41 PM »
I hear it was a UIL assignment

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« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2010, 04:39:48 PM »
TxMike I heard the same.

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« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2010, 04:56:09 PM »
I hear it was a UIL assignment
That's interesting.   Add that to the chapter secretary assigning himself and you have a double dose of stuff.   

Hey, you going to be in the chat room for these games.   Were you not supposed to be at a TASO meeting today?

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« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2010, 05:00:01 PM »
I will be in tomorrow.  Tied up today

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« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2010, 05:00:37 PM »
This game is like an NBA game....no defense.

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« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2010, 05:01:22 PM »
Regardess of what is on the hats, it looks awful.  

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« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2010, 05:03:00 PM »
That's interesting.   Add that to the chapter secretary assigning himself and you have a double dose of stuff.   

Hey, you going to be in the chat room for these games.   Were you not supposed to be at a TASO meeting today?

Which position is the chap sec?

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« Reply #47 on: December 17, 2010, 05:04:57 PM »
Which position is the chap sec?


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« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2010, 06:16:44 PM »
I hear it was a UIL assignment

All 3 of the games that the FTW Chapter are working this weekend were UIL assignments. That's what you get when your Assigning Secretary has his head buried up TT's backside. So much for "fairness" of assignments. I guess Tony couldn't spread the love around to other Chapters.

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« Reply #49 on: December 17, 2010, 06:25:28 PM »
Ft Worth boys look really good tonight and love the hats!!!!!!!!