"Vexed" Wisconsin Coach

[ignorant fan]

 Thanks for the info.

[El Macman]

All that is required is they be set for 1 second before the ball can be snapped.  You can see that the Umpire was up over the ball for more than a second waiting on the Referee to start the clock.  The "being set" rule doesn't mean they have to hold being set for 1 second to run off the game clock.

Not quite accurate. The one second set rule only applies if there is a huddle or shift AFTER the ball is declared ready for play. In this case, since the team was set the instant the ball was made ready for play, there is no "one second" requirement, and the ball could be snapped instantly.

[Diablo]

The one second set rule only applies if there is a huddle or shift AFTER the ball is declared ready for play. In this case, since the team was set the instant the ball was made ready for play, there is no "one second" requirement, and the ball could be snapped instantly.

Isn't that redundant?  By definition, "shifts" and "huddles" do NOT exist until the ball is made RFP. 

[NVFOA_Ump]

Not quite accurate. The one second set rule only applies if there is a huddle or shift AFTER the ball is declared ready for play. In this case, since the team was set the instant the ball was made ready for play, there is no "one second" requirement, and the ball could be snapped instantly.

I don't believe that is correct for 2011-2012 rules.  Rule 7-1-2-b-5 was added this year and reads pretty clearly IMO.  It reads that it is a false start if the requirement is not satisfied:

7-1-2-b-5. The offensive team never coming to a one-second stop prior to the snap after the ball is ready for play (A.R. 7-1-2-IV).

And AR 7-1-2-IV IMO describes the case play verbatim:

Team A is in a no-huddle offense and is moving to the line when the ball is made ready for play. Although some players settle into their positions and stop, at least one player never stops and is still moving when the ball is snapped.
RULING: Dead-ball foul--false start, since Team A never satisfied the one-second rule before the snap. Officials should shut the play down and penalize Team A five yards.

Starting this year even the rulebook itself refers to this as the "one-second rule" and it applies even when there is no huddle or shift.

[TXMike]

We discussed this earlier:  http://www.refstripes.com/forum/index.php?topic=8358.0

[NVFOA_Ump]

Agreed that this was discussed earlier this year and although there were comments that some of us were "mis-reading" the new rule, the play being discussed is virtually identical to the case play in the book which says shut the play down and flag it as a false start.

[Diablo]

... the play being discussed is virtually identical to the case play in the book which says shut the play down and flag it as a false start.

No, the AR is different from the play on the table. 
The AR reads, "Team A is in a no-huddle offense and is moving to the line when the ball is made ready for play. Although some players settle into their positions and stop, at least one player never stops and is still moving when the ball is snapped.
RULING: Dead-ball foul--false start, since Team A never satisfied the one-second rule before the snap. Officials should shut the play down and penalize Team A five yards."

Note the AR says that Team A is moving at the RFP.  That translates to Team A is shifting after the RFP.  According to 7-1-2-a, all Team A players must stop of a 1 sec prior to the snap.  The AR goes on to state that one Team A player never stopped before the snap - wa la, false start.

In the final play from the Rose Bowl, Team A was not moving immediately before or during the snap; hence, no shift and no foul.   

[NVFOA_Ump]

This rule change was made in part due to several plays during the 2010 season bowl games.  The 2011 RR memo and the actual rule wording does not include the "huddle/shift" language as was standard in this situation prior to 2011.  Where do we get the interpretation that the old "huddle/shift" language still applies here when the RR memo, the rule, and the AR all very clearly read that the offensive team must be stopped for 1 second after the RFP?  There is no "after a shift" or any other language in the 2011 rule.

[TXMike]

From Redding's bulletin addressing the rule change:

ILLEGAL SHIFT: POSSIBLE FALSE START
The definition of a shift has remained unchanged for many years. A shift occurs when two or more Team A players change their position or stance after the ball is ready for play before the snap. The shift ends when all players stop and remain motionless for one full second.
This definition allows us to distinguish two kinds of illegal shift. One kind is when the offensive team is in the midst of a shift when the ball is made ready for play and never comes to a one-second stop before the snap. The other is when the shift starts after the ball is ready for play—that is, sometime after the ball is ready for play Team A satisfies the one-second rule and then executes a shift that is still continuing at the snap.
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I don't know how this could be made much clearer, if there is no movement during or after the RFP signal, there is no shift.  If there is no shift there is no foul for snapping before 1 second AFTER the RFP.  As I said when we went through this before....your position would make it impossible for a team to legally get a play off if there was 1 second left on the clock and clock starting on the RFP signal.  If that was the case, the rules would certainly make clear we should just call the game over since there is no way Team A could start a play.