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Offline TxSkyBolt

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High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« on: December 19, 2015, 03:48:13 PM »
I'll start, only my opinion, YMMV.


1) Referees running to get QB forward progress spot on sacks, completely ignoring the QB laying under the defender. Stay back, observe and let the wings get forward progress.
2) Umpires sprinting to the pile on every tackle.  Use your voice and come up cautiously, watching for DB fouls.
3) Back Judges dropping a bean bag on punts after a fair catch.  This is a head scratcher.
4) Wings winding the clock when ball carrier is not tackled near the sideline. When I say near, probably OK to wind when tackle is within a yard of the sideline. So many wings wind when tackle is 2, 3 sometimes 4 yards from the sideline. Simply no need.

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2015, 03:56:25 PM »
As a BJ, I drop a bag on EVERY punt regardless of fair catch or not. If I drop it every time, I stay in my routine. Never a bad thing to know the end of the kick, you never know what may happen.

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2015, 04:11:39 PM »
5. Flank spotting ball at a their feet on play ending at  the sidelines and looking to the nose picking ball boy for a ball.  Use the dirty ball please and help keep the flow going. 

6. Umpire ball watching and giving some kind of signal as the ball carrier crosses the goal line.  Just throw up your hands and give the dam signal right if you're going to ball watch and not do your job.  Flanks get paid for forward progress spots and ruling on scores. 

7. Deep flanks crashing down on E-V-E-R-Y play out of bounds, guess they must be bored and need something to do. 

8.  Coaches in the white, I don't care where, no one in the white.





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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2015, 04:39:09 PM »
9.  Referees walking downfield when a downfield official throws a flag.  Please jog and get downfield and get the foul information.

10.  Back Judges dropping a bean bag on interceptions in which the team B player is running forward away from the end zone when momentum will not be an issue.

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2015, 04:54:45 PM »
11.  Referee's who refuse to protect their QB, Kicker or Holder because they're more interested in watching the ball.

12.  Flank officials not officiating out of bounds players because they want to pose down the goal line and signal TD.

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2015, 04:57:05 PM »
 hEaDbAnG 13. Listening to announcers that say asinine and/or obvious things OR comment on fouls that they are completely ignorant about.   

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2015, 04:59:30 PM »
11.  Referee's who refuse to protect their QB, Kicker or Holder because they're more interested in watching the ball.  5:52 4th of Lone Star v Cedar Park

12.  Flank officials not officiating out of bounds players because they want to pose down the goal line and signal TD.

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2015, 06:22:25 PM »
14.  Referees out of shape and puking on the field after long fumble and blocked field goals.  :sTiR:

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2015, 06:25:37 PM »
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Back Judges dropping a bean bag on punts after a fair catch.  This is a head scratcher.

I don't know why. What if you have to break something up? What if the receiver gets hit and the ball comes loose, and everyone thinks its live? Can you guarantee you will remember the spot in those and other situations?

Offline TxSkyBolt

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High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2015, 08:52:17 PM »
15. Using the word placard instead of placket when referring to the position letter on the back of our shirts.


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Offline TexDoc

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2015, 09:19:09 PM »
Neither really seem to define it txsky. 

A placket is an opening in the upper part of trousers or skirts, or at the neck or sleeve of a garment. Plackets are almost always used to allow clothing to be put on or removed easily, but are sometimes used purely as a design element.

A sign or notice for display in a public place. 2. A small card or plaque, such as a nameplate on a door.

Offline centexsports

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2015, 09:26:08 PM »
A placket is a slit and a placard is a sign.  I think placard is a better Name for it but I just called it what I had heard it called

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16. Officials that throw flags.at players instead of spots. 

Offline Sumstine

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2015, 10:04:26 PM »
The general lack of recruiting, training, appreciation and reasonable pay.

Offline Txgarza

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2015, 11:24:03 PM »
Referees chewing gum while making announcements. Also when reporting a foul starting off by saying "we got".

Offline TxSkyBolt

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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2015, 09:26:13 AM »

Neither really seem to define it txsky. 

A placket is an opening in the upper part of trousers or skirts, or at the neck or sleeve of a garment. Plackets are almost always used to allow clothing to be put on or removed easily, but are sometimes used purely as a design element.

A sign or notice for display in a public place. 2. A small card or plaque, such as a nameplate on a door.

But that's what it's called Doc. I didn't invent the term but it's correctly Placket not placard. check TASO website, Honigs, etc.


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Offline TxSkyBolt

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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2015, 09:34:36 AM »
17. Referees who announce penalties against team names instead of Offense/Defense/Kicking team/Return team


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Offline Osric Pureheart

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2015, 11:33:49 AM »
17. Referees who announce penalties against team names instead of Offense/Defense/Kicking team/Return team

There is an interception or fumble.  During the return, Team A commits a personal foul.  How should the referee describe them, if not by team name?  They're not returning anything, they haven't kicked the ball, and by rule they aren't the offense.

Offline TxSkyBolt

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2015, 11:35:23 AM »
There is an interception or fumble.  During the return, Team A commits a personal foul.  How should the referee describe them, if not by team name?  They're not returning anything, they haven't kicked the ball, and by rule they aren't the offense.

Agree that there are times it makes good sense to announce team names. I was just speaking to the routine live ball fouls.

Offline TxSkyBolt

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2015, 11:37:49 AM »
5. Flank spotting ball at a their feet on play ending at  the sidelines and looking to the nose picking ball boy for a ball.  Use the dirty ball please and help keep the flow going. 

6. Umpire ball watching and giving some kind of signal as the ball carrier crosses the goal line.  Just throw up your hands and give the dam signal right if you're going to ball watch and not do your job.  Flanks get paid for forward progress spots and ruling on scores. 

7. Deep flanks crashing down on E-V-E-R-Y play out of bounds, guess they must be bored and need something to do. 

8.  Coaches in the white, I don't care where, no one in the white.

I believe #7 is pretty standard and encouraged at the various camps I've attended.

Offline JasonTX

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2015, 12:16:08 PM »
There is an interception or fumble.  During the return, Team A commits a personal foul.  How should the referee describe them, if not by team name?  They're not returning anything, they haven't kicked the ball, and by rule they aren't the offense.
  Let's keep in mind that not all announcements need to have rule terminology.   The announcement is to briefly explain the foul and by whom.  Even though by rule they aren't the offense, but to fans they are, so calling them offense after a change of possession will convey the message as to which team fouled.  You could also refer to them as the passing team or fumbling team.

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2015, 05:31:25 PM »
#18  Wings who can not throw the ball into the U from the white with a reasonable sense of accuracy

#19  Wings that turn their back to the players in the field while they run back to their position


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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2015, 06:56:26 PM »
But that's what it's called Doc. I didn't invent the term but it's correctly Placket not placard. check TASO website, Honigs, etc.


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If you're an official and someone says "we are going to wear placards," doesn't just about everyone know what that means?  :o)

Offline TxSkyBolt

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« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2015, 07:04:24 PM »

If you're an official and someone says "we are going to wear placards," doesn't just about everyone know what that means?  :o)

But it would still be wrong. Everybody knows what is meant by a lateral but insist on calling it a backwards pass.


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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2015, 08:14:27 PM »
Referees who are consumed with finishing a game as quickly as possible, blowing the ready before the ball is even on the ground.
"Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it's wrong."

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Re: High School Officiating Pet Peeves
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2015, 09:20:58 PM »
But it would still be wrong. Everybody knows what is meant by a lateral but insist on calling it a backwards pass.


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