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Offline WingOfficial

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U.S. Flag Patches
« on: August 30, 2011, 12:54:44 PM »
Hi all, I'm just trying to get a feel for what most people do with regards to wearing an American flag patch on your officiating uniform?  Our H.S. association is wresting with the issues of (1) whether or not to have the white or gold border around the flag, and (2) whether or not to place the patch on the left sleeve or above the pocket.

I know, I know, we should be arguing about other issues, but alas, this is where we're at.

Any thoughts?  Thanks!

 FlAg1

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Re: U.S. Flag Patches
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2011, 01:23:57 PM »
for FL: I think the border and placement is up to the local assn.
For playoffs, FL is mandating a flag w/ white border on left sleeve - along w/ black pants with the State logo on them too.

For what it's worth it's above the pocket for NCAA guys; however, I've seen them left shoulder and at the base of the neck to.

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Re: U.S. Flag Patches
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2011, 04:27:03 PM »
Highly recommend the wearing of the U.S. Flag.
I've been told that the gold border is supposed to be reserved for military. Strongly recommend the white border - matches our uniforms better, anyway. Also strongly recommend the stars on the left, and sew it above the left breast pocket (although I can't remember the exact dimension above - 1" or 1 1/2".
If you choose to wear it on a sleeve, be sure the stars are forward, as though the flag is waving in the breeze as you move forward (i.e., as the soldiers 'advance'). So, get the correctly oriented flag for the specific sleeve.
And do the flag the justice of having it sewn on - not glued of velcroed. 




Hi all, I'm just trying to get a feel for what most people do with regards to wearing an American flag patch on your officiating uniform?  Our H.S. association is wresting with the issues of (1) whether or not to have the white or gold border around the flag, and (2) whether or not to place the patch on the left sleeve or above the pocket.

I know, I know, we should be arguing about other issues, but alas, this is where we're at.

Any thoughts?  Thanks!

 FlAg1
« Last Edit: August 30, 2011, 07:21:25 PM by El Macman »

Frank in FL

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Re: U.S. Flag Patches
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2011, 11:29:25 AM »
Gold borders or fringes are NOT reserved for the military.  It is strictly a matter of choice.  Most ceremonial flags have gold borders, military or not.

El Macman

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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2011, 03:31:36 PM »
Gold borders or fringes are NOT reserved for the military.  It is strictly a matter of choice.  Most ceremonial flags have gold borders, military or not.

White matches our uniforms better, regardless. And that's what you'll get if you buy a shirt with a flag patch already on it. Strongly recommend that you 'choose' white.

Offline TxSkyBolt

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Re: U.S. Flag Patches
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2011, 07:52:53 PM »
According to the flag code, we shouldn't wear them at all.

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Re: U.S. Flag Patches
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2011, 08:51:31 PM »
According to the flag code, we shouldn't wear them at all.

I agree, but I guess that doesn't matter since we must all now prove our patriotism.

I wonder how many states require them.
"Just because you don't understand it, doesn't mean it's wrong."

mbyron

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Re: U.S. Flag Patches
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2011, 07:39:06 AM »
They are optional for most officiating uniforms in Ohio.

Shoottv

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Re: U.S. Flag Patches
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2011, 10:23:26 PM »
I have always attached my patches with velcro. I think over time they look nicer if you can remove them when you wash the shirt. That way they don't shrink, wrinkle or fade.
Just my 2 cents.

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Re: U.S. Flag Patches
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2011, 01:32:16 AM »
Optional in Illinois to be worn on the right sleeve. And football is the only sport where I wear a flag. When 9-11 took place that was in the middle of the football season, so now many people continue to wear them. Most around here have the gold borders. That is what we were given so that is what we have. Not saying it is right, but the way it is.

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jjseikel

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Re: U.S. Flag Patches
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2011, 12:22:59 PM »
September 11 is the middle of the season in Illinois?!  :!#

It is the start of the season in most places... but I realize you must do as your assignor/association dictates in your localized area of the universe.

takemeaway10

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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2011, 12:55:37 PM »
1) I heard the same thing about the military, but I doubt Honig's would be selling them if the gold border was strictly reserved for military personnel.
2) Left arm, left patch (stars on left). Right arm, right patch.

JRutledge

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Re: U.S. Flag Patches
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2011, 01:19:19 PM »
September 11 is the middle of the season in Illinois?!  :!#

It is the start of the season in most places... but I realize you must do as your assignor/association dictates in your localized area of the universe.


Well considering that this weekend it will be Week 3 out of 9, the season is pretty much near or in the middle. That being said I was not being literal as that means that we have been doing football related stuff for over a month.

And what are most places? Indiana starts a week before we do and states in the Midwest this is we are either start on the same week or start a week before or after others in this region. I know some season ends later in the year, but our actual season is over Thanksgiving weekend.

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Grant - AR

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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2011, 01:30:38 PM »
Well considering that this weekend it will be Week 3 out of 9, the season is pretty much near or in the middle. That being said I was not being literal as that means that we have been doing football related stuff for over a month.

And what are most places? Indiana starts a week before we do and states in the Midwest this is we are either start on the same week or start a week before or after others in this region. I know some season ends later in the year, but our actual season is over Thanksgiving weekend.

Peace

I believe this is week 2 of 10 for high school regular season in Arkansas.  Of course, the playoffs last a month past the end of the season.

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Re: U.S. Flag Patches
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2011, 03:10:04 PM »
Flags are meant to be flown not worn.

JRutledge

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Re: U.S. Flag Patches
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2011, 03:15:22 PM »
Flags are meant to be flown not worn.

Not entirely true even if you believe we should not be wearing them as an official. But flags are worn properly on many government type uniforms, like the military. But I agree in basic principle that we really should refrain from this being a standard across the board.

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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2011, 07:12:25 PM »
Flags are meant to be flown not worn.

And thrown. ^flag

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Re: U.S. Flag Patches
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2011, 07:55:00 PM »
Fellas- this is week 4 in NC.  They "contracted" the season a week this year in deference to winter sports among other thoughts.  Previously we had 12 weeks beginning the third Friday in August- 10 regular season games + 1 optional endowment game + 1 open date.  Week 12 was the first Friday in November.

Now if you play an endowment, you're going a straight 11 weeks with the final Friday the last one in October.  Coaches used to say it was special to be practicing at Thanksgiving.  Now we'll be in the regionals ( state semi-finals) then.  That will be REAL special.