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Offline TXMike

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More Hitting in the White
« on: December 23, 2012, 09:53:42 AM »
Deja vu all over again..I just don't see how a guy can be excused for a hit in the white when his direction of movement and aiming point are clearly going to make the hit happen in the white.

http://youtu.be/1zYtDF4ZQsQ


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Re: More Hitting in the White
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2012, 10:51:07 AM »
 ^flag
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Re: More Hitting in the White
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2012, 04:57:36 AM »
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Re: More Hitting in the White
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2012, 07:41:13 AM »
^flag

Ditto

BTW     Why is the UIL sign inside the limit line?  Ain't that illegal? 

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Re: More Hitting in the White
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2012, 10:54:58 AM »
no flag.  pretty inexcusable on the zebras part

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Re: More Hitting in the White
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2012, 01:43:44 PM »
4 feet in the white - clearly a foul

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Re: More Hitting in the White
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2012, 10:06:30 AM »
I'd like a sideline view to see if the push by White #18 added to his momentum.

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Re: More Hitting in the White
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2012, 04:33:34 PM »
Holy cow, how did two officials miss that one?

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Re: More Hitting in the White
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2013, 09:49:17 AM »
 ^flag  9-1-3

possibly flagrant if you consider he launched
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Re: More Hitting in the White
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2013, 02:40:33 PM »
Ditto

BTW     Why is the UIL sign inside the limit line?  Ain't that illegal?

Looks to me like it's on the limit line.  The white one -there's also a yellow one a bit further back.

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Re: More Hitting in the White
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2013, 03:50:19 PM »
Not to pile on, but to learn from this play, I think the problem might be mechanics.

I don’t work on the line of scrimmage, but why is the H moving downfield at the snap, he has to stop and hop back to let the play get in front of him.  I thought that the LOS guys would take a step back into the backfield on a sweep towards them.

The S is awfully quick to get the ball from the ball carrier.  I don’t move for at least a count or two after the play.  Getting a ball can wait, flagging late hits can not.

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Re: More Hitting in the White
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2013, 04:44:59 PM »
This certainly APPEARS that the hit is out of bounds but I don't see how you all can be so definitive about this being a foul.  We're looking at a shot from the opposite sideline.  Both feet of the defender are in bounds.  It's really hard to tell where the runner actually is.  It is for me anyway. 

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Re: More Hitting in the White
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2013, 06:14:39 PM »
Not to pile on, but to learn from this play, I think the problem might be mechanics.

I don’t work on the line of scrimmage, but why is the H moving downfield at the snap, he has to stop and hop back to let the play get in front of him.  I thought that the LOS guys would take a step back into the backfield on a sweep towards them.

The S is awfully quick to get the ball from the ball carrier.  I don’t move for at least a count or two after the play.  Getting a ball can wait, flagging late hits can not.

The H moves downfield because he is responsible for the "belt area".  The belt is the area anywhere from the line of scrimmage to behind the Umpire.  Moving the H at the snap gives him a line of sight straight through the belt.  As for moving to the get the ball.  You are exactly correct.  Let the players separate and then we can get a ball in.

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Re: More Hitting in the White
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2013, 07:19:53 PM »
Looks to me like it's on the limit line.  The white one -there's also a yellow one a bit further back.

The lines do look a bit different than NCAA.  Was the game at Cowboys Stadium?  Is the field marked differently in the NFL?

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Re: More Hitting in the White
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2013, 07:38:18 PM »
The H moves downfield because he is responsible for the "belt area".  The belt is the area anywhere from the line of scrimmage to behind the Umpire.  Moving the H at the snap gives him a line of sight straight through the belt.  As for moving to the get the ball.  You are exactly correct.  Let the players separate and then we can get a ball in.

H would move if he read pass, but with a run you are going to hold the line, if you run comes at you as in this play you would move back up the field to have a better view, and more importantly to keep your rear from getting trucked...

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Re: More Hitting in the White
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2013, 10:02:50 AM »
H would move if he read pass, but with a run you are going to hold the line, if you run comes at you as in this play you would move back up the field to have a better view, and more importantly to keep your rear from getting trucked...

ditto that...no way H or L should be "floating" until they read pass...unless the are responsible for GL