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Texas Topics / Re: UIL Playoff Brackets
« Last post by TexDoc on Today at 12:45:56 PM »
Down to needing just these:

SA Southwest / Los Fresnos
Van Vleck / Mathis
Burton / Louise
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NCAA Discussion / Re: DII or DIII Travel
« Last post by refbuz on Today at 12:44:04 PM »
Working for negative wages is to be expected.  ;D

Just don't report them too often.  You don't want Uncle Sam trying to classify this as a "hobby"...
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Sounds like an offensive coordinator bothered to read the rule, and unfortunately, s defensive coordinator didn't bother.
The loyal opposition called a TO when they first saw the shift. I can only assume that they assumed:
 (1) MCI wouldn't run the same play shift now that they have shown it.
 (2) IF they shifted into that, they would still only have the snapper, QB & RB alone at ball.
 
They assumed wrong on both...

MCI again shifted into the "swinging gate"
         BUT
This time MCI had snapper, QB AND TWO RBs at the ball.

B had sent 4 to cover...2 would cover the receivers and two would box the QB.

The ball was snapped....
 B1 & B2 rushed the QB......
   B3 & B4 covered the two running backs....
     The snapper jogged into the end zone.....
       The QB flipped him the ball like a dart to a board...
         It was a bull's eye....
           The snapper hugged the ball..
             The half ended....
               The opponents never recovered...

...AND THE BAND PLAYED ON!!
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Don't think it can't happen,  one more foul and it would have been inside the B-10.  The kicker dribbled the kick and it was picked up by a kicking team member on the 2 yard line. It was 1st and 10 for R from the R-2 yard line.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/11/18/16674880/salisbury-ithaca-kickoff-receiving-teams-10-yard-line
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Fumble Play
« Last post by Ralph Damren on Today at 12:05:55 PM »
because the clock was stopped for the apparent TD, the clock will start on the snap after enforcement.

Good job, Calhoun,3-4-3d applies  aWaRd aWaRd.
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Specific rule reference, please. ???
2-28-1. There was a year when a rule was passed that stated the neutral zone on a free kick could NOT extend into the end zone.

Along came the "WHAT IF" P_S P_S POLICE. Their concern was :
K punts from deep in their end zone with LOS at K's1.
R makes fair catch @ K's 2 ::).
R, now A, decides it would be a nice time to free kick ::)
K, now B, send in 2 7' basketball players to stand at goal line and try to block kick ::) ::).

Returning the neutral zone to 10 yards and into end zone wouldn't give K an advantage on recovering a potential onside kick, as once the kick broke the goal line plane, it would become dead and a touchback.

 yEs: We agreed and stretched to NZ back to 10 the following year yEs:.

TTR (things to remember) :

 (1) As K's free kick grows closer to R's end zone, the chance of an onside kick grows greater - be ready.

 (2) While penalties halve the distance, the 25 yard award for untouched going OOB does not. If K line is inside R's 25, that option is no longer available.

 (3) There is no rule that requires the free kick to go 10 yards - if it doesn't, it's just like a punt. If near the goal line, just knocking the ball from the tee and falling on it is enough.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Fumble Play
« Last post by CalhounLJ on Today at 11:38:44 AM »
because the clock was stopped for the apparent TD, the clock will start on the snap after enforcement.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Fumble Play
« Last post by Ralph Damren on Today at 11:33:22 AM »
Can you bat a fumble in flight? : YES

Can you bat a grounded fumble that then bounced high? : NO (9-7-2)

How does a bat differ from a muff? : BATTING IS INTENTIONAL (2-2) WHILE MUFF IS TRYING TO GRAB(2-27).

Who gets the ball in OP? : B DIDN'T GET BALL WITH CLEAN HANDS, BUT GOT A FLAG. 

Where's the basic spot? : THE END OF THE RUN (B'S 40)
THAT SHOULD BE MARKED BY BEANBAG(S).

When will the clock start? :____________

YOU GUYS ANSWER THAT!
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Fumble Play
« Last post by AlUpstateNY on Today at 10:40:41 AM »
Try as some might, action during a football game is really a bad place to seek, "One size that fits all".  On the other hand, the willingness and courage to judge what is actually being observed, as to how it may comply with a thoroughly understood set of multiple definitions and guidelines can be indispensable.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Fumble Play
« Last post by NVFOA_Ump on Today at 10:38:28 AM »
If he intentionally provided a new force to a grounded loose ball without possessing it, by definition he has batted it ...
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Agreed, this is a fumble that has hit the ground and a player without possession and control as noted has "intentionally provided a new force" so we have Illegal Batting.
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