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National Federation Discussion / Re: Who is watching Number 2?
« Last post by jason on Yesterday at 01:59:59 PM »
Tough play with 5-man.

Having said that, however, the BJ on this play appears to be somewhat distracted or off his key.  Pre-snap he's looking at the weak side of the formation, which is wrong, and when the play starts he is staring down the QB.  By the time he makes it to his key, the damage is already done.

Normally I'd agree with FLAHL that the BJ would be moving his concentration slightly towards the Z on this play, but it doesn't appear this BJ ever comes close to looking that way (even if he did sense it enough to back pedal far enough to cover Z's route).

Having said all that, the contact itself is questionable, and depending on whether the H receiver is actually hunting for a downfield block would determine if this foul would even be called.
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General Discussion / Impressive Whistle Control
« Last post by theunofficialofficial on Yesterday at 12:51:23 PM »

Some great reasons to never stop officiating!

https://youtu.be/n3C86bM4tCk

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National Federation Discussion / Re: Brain Puzzlers
« Last post by Ralph Damren on Yesterday at 06:36:01 AM »
IMHO, there is a big difference between a coach griping  >:( about a judgment call (he was/wasn't holding, that was a catch/trap, he was/wasn't in, etc.) and an IW pi1eOn pi1eOn. I've had to make that long walk that KWH described a few times and have told myself :
                       (1)  EXPLAIN
                       (2)  LISTEN
                       (3) WALK AWAY

Unless he makes physical contact or swears at me and not the IW that upset him >:( >:( >:( , I'll let him vent. I'll usually begin with :
     "Coach, we blew it. We sounded a whistle while the ball was loose and BY RULE need to replay the down. I apologize for our crew.... "
     That seems to soften the discussion  , and remember....


INADVERTENT WHISTLES RARELY HAVE HAPPY ENDINGS

 :( :-[ :-[ :-[ :o ::) :P >:D
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NCAA Discussion / Re: NCAA Football Rules Committee Actions for 2017
« Last post by Rulesman on April 23, 2017, 08:21:47 AM »
*Knee pad rule has been tabled to 2018
As noted in the release.
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NCAA Discussion / Re: NCAA Football Rules Committee Actions for 2017
« Last post by bossman72 on April 23, 2017, 07:16:29 AM »
*Knee pad rule has been tabled to 2018
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NCAA Discussion / Re: Would you flag #68 for OH or let it pass.
« Last post by Joe Stack on April 22, 2017, 01:24:56 PM »
Nothing. Assuming there is contact that would necessitate a hold (if at the point of attack, etc.), the defender makes an inside move and the runner is past him. I'll give a slightly-behind-the-runner defender the benefit of the doubt on a shirt or foot grab by an offensive player but not a straight up block like this.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Brain Puzzlers
« Last post by KWH on April 22, 2017, 11:59:19 AM »
Forgive me Bama.
I did not mean to suggest he had carte blanc to go into a profanity injected lunatical rage.
I did mean to suggest that this is a situation where you need to give him LOTS of rope.

But he did project his opinion that replaying the down affords his opponent a 2nd opportunity to win the ballgame!  And that 2nd opportunity was never earned rather it was gifted by an officiating error.
He further commented that their should not be a rule that allows a team to gain an advantage by an officiating error.
All of his comments were short and too the point even though they were blended with some profanity. (For the record, had he been griping about a missed hold he likely would have earned a flag!)
Others may have flagged him this time, and, while I realize everyone's limit is not the same, on this particular day, I chose not to throw another log on the bonfire.

And now the rest of the story....
After the explanation, We lined then back up, the snap, the kick, and the field goal was blocked again by the same kid through the same gap. The ball caromed out of bounds as time expired in the 4th during the down
...and no whistle from the Umpire this time.

Final R21,  K20  (The right team won)

There is a football God!
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Brain Puzzlers
« Last post by bama_stripes on April 22, 2017, 06:21:43 AM »
If you are ever in this predicament, it really should not matter what the R coach has to say, let him vent, and go replay the down. 
Strongly agree

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I strongly recommend not Throwing a UNS on an R coach that is upset due to an egregious officiating error such as this one regrdless of what he says.

Absolutely disagree.  An officiating error, even one that might cost him points, is no reason to act like a raving lunatic.  He's supposed to be setting an example for his team and fans.

Am I going to give him a very long leash?  Certainly.  Am I going to give him carte blanc?  No way.
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National Federation Discussion / Re: Brain Puzzlers
« Last post by KWH on April 21, 2017, 11:20:21 PM »

When a Field Goal is blocked the ball remains live right up until someone blows an IW.
Usually the R coach will want (and he is certainly entitled to) an explanation.
I recall having to make that walk once after the UMPIRE blew an IW on a blocked Field Goal with the ball bouncing around in the offensive backfield.
The R coach beckoned me over, I slowly (while gathering my thoughts) walked over to the coach and I said; Coach, unfortunately there is nothing that I am about to tell you that you are going to like! We had an Inadvertent Whistle and, by rule, the offense has the option to replay the last down.
Because Rulesman does not like profanity on this board, I will forgo the coaches response, but, I will say, he was not pleased.
If you are ever in this predicament, it really should not matter what the R coach has to say, let him vent, and go replay the down.  I strongly recommend not Throwing a UNS on an R coach that is upset due to an egregious officiating error such as this one regrdless of what he says.
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