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NCAA Discussion / Re: How do you study?
« Last post by centexsports on Today at 09:48:19 AM »
Besides reading through the rules, I take the Taso test multiple times before the season starts.  Then I print them and use them for review.  They helped me out several times last season.
National Federation Discussion / Re: Choreographed Celebration?
« Last post by NMWH on Today at 07:54:07 AM »
I saw this in a college game. Player caught the kickoff inside the 5 without signaling for a fair catch. Turned and tossed it to the WH who immediately blew it dead and awarded the fair catch anyway. Then he proceeded to have a discussion with the player.  Iím assuming it went like this: ďdonít do that again. You still have to signal for a fair catch..Ē seemed like common sense.
National Federation Discussion / Re: Choreographed Celebration?
« Last post by Kalle on Today at 05:29:13 AM »
If I was the 'R' in the NFL playoff game, I would call the ball alive and overrule the backup crew officials 100% of the time.

You would also make sure that you would not get any more playoff games that year (and maybe not even the next, depending on how the TD affected the result of the game). Both NFL and NCAA (this has happened in at least one NCAA game, too) want that kind of action to be ruled dead ball, touchback, and I agree with them.
NCAA Discussion / Re: How do you study?
« Last post by ajones10 on Yesterday at 08:55:13 PM »
I use Redding's Study Guide with the rules close at hand. Redding's is good starting point IMO because it is not as "Greek" as the Rules and accompanies it with play situations. It was really helpful for me in my first year.

I understand exactly where you are coming from. The rule book was and is really tough for me to dive in and get a lot out of it. It has to be used in conjunction with rule questions, video and mechanics manual.

I'm a youngin and may be proven wrong as I move through college football officiating, but I barely cracked the rules book in my first year (last year) and received over 90% on all my clinic tests. Now, I put in a LOT of work with Reddings, video and quiz questions, but not much time in the rule book.
NCAA Discussion / Re: How do you study?
« Last post by Derek Teigen on Yesterday at 12:50:33 PM »
this is a great question and I think Elvis Live's response includes all the right answers and to that I would add study game films.  I find film helps me the most as I understand something better when I see it.
NCAA Discussion / Re: How do you study?
« Last post by ElvisLives on Yesterday at 10:19:25 AM »
Reading the rules is no different than reading the assembly instruction manual on your kidís new 10-speed bike, or your new 6-burner gas grill, or that new desk for your wifeís office.  When you get through, and the gears donít shift, the burners donít light, and the right side of the desk should be the left side, you finally decide to read the manual.  ďOh. I didnít realize that I needed to (align the gears) (remove the gas seal) (look for the R or L marks on the parts).Ē At least in the cases of a bike, a grill, or a desk, you can usually go back, read the manual, and fix the errors before they become a safety problem, or cause irreparable damage.
In the case of rules, we donít often get the chance to fix our screw-ups, so we must read the manual first. In real time, we must know the rules - the language, the purpose, and the implementation of the rules. There is no short cut.  You simply must read, and know, the rules as they are written.  Period. It is impossible to make rulings on the field without knowing the rules thoroughly - the language, the purpose, the interpretations, and the application of all rules.
Self study by reading the rules, interpretations, and bulletins is a must, and the first step - an ongoing step, but the first step.  The next steps, in no particular order, are collaboration with fellow officials, attendance at rules clinics and meetings, completion of rules exams and understanding errors, participation on officiating chat sites, and getting as much on-field experience as possible (especially with scrimmages, where screw-ups wonít be as damaging as in true competition).
The importance of knowing the rules correctly and thoroughly can not be over-stated or over-emphasized.
Good luck!
National Federation Discussion / Re: Choreographed Celebration?
« Last post by AlUpstateNY on January 24, 2020, 10:35:54 PM »
Unfortunately, "Common Sense" although extremely important, is never assured, guaranteed or automatic especially when confronted by the totally unexpected or unusual. Developing and correctly utilizing it are both acquired talents.
General Discussion / Re: Knee covering rule
« Last post by ElvisLives on January 24, 2020, 03:56:03 PM »
In post season our assigner asks the playoff bound coaches to supply a "wish list" of 20 with ranking of 1 thru 20 (we have aprox 50 in our chapter). He will then compare the lists of the two opponents and attempt to provide officials that are on both lists. With multiple games often officials are on multiple lists and ,in case of not being able to fulfill all of the wish lists, he uses our internal rating system to fill the crews.

For state championship games, all coaches can vote for 14 officials (we use 7 men for championship only) . The most vote-getters need to be in the top 25% of their chapter's rating. Assigners , along with the state office, compile the assignments. Some are disappointed , most see it as fair.

That system may have its flaws, but it is better than Texasí system.  Sadly, I believe it would take State Legislative action to make the needed change, since the UIL is an element of the University of Texas (tax supported and legislatively funded).  Most state legislators are UT grads, and they arenít about to to anything to weaken UTís standing in the state, regardless of how minor, in the grand scheme of things.
And so it goes...
NCAA Discussion / How do you study?
« Last post by Cowtown Ref on January 24, 2020, 02:33:27 PM »
Lookin to see how others rule study.

Personally, just reading the book can be monotonous and hard to truly take in.

So wanted to see how others approach to get ideas.

National Federation Discussion / Re: Choreographed Celebration?
« Last post by bbeagle on January 24, 2020, 01:43:14 PM »
Agree, Common Sense is one on the most valuable attributes of a game official.

Common Sense is not the same to every official.

Look at this year's Buffalo Bills vs Houston Texans playoff game. Opening kickoff of 2nd half. Ball kicked by Buffalo to Houston player in the end zone. Houston player catches the ball deep in the end zone and takes two steps forwards towards the field of play (he is still in the middle of the end zone). He then looks to throw the ball to the official who says, 'No'. He then just lets go of the ball forwards. Never kneels the ball. The Buffalo Bills jump on the ball in the end zone after he tosses it forwards. By rule, it should be either a TD or a Safety whether it was judged the toss was a pass or a fumble. The R on the field called it a TD immediately. Oh, but the backup crew officials came on the field and overruled the head referee to change his call to a touchback as it was 'common sense' he was giving himself up.

That was the worst ever 'common sense' I have ever seen. You can't just declare a player down by thinking that hmmm... he doesn't want to return the ball. He gave himself up. Really? Then take a knee! What if that happened in NFHS rules on an interception? If the player catches the interception with nobody 20 yards from him and just walks 2 steps then tosses the ball towards the official? Are you keeping the play alive or ruling the player down? In 100% of the plays, I'm ruling it a fumble/pass, the ball is still alive. If I was the 'R' in the NFL playoff game, I would call the ball alive and overrule the backup crew officials 100% of the time.

Say, there is a hail mary from the team's own 35, just after the snap a receiver's toe (A80) barely touches the out-of-bounds line at the A40. The B coach sees this. The QB still has the ball for another 7 seconds until he heaves it down to the end zone. A80 catches the ball miraculously in the end zone amongst a mob of other players. Are you using 'common sense' and saying that the toe out of bounds had nothing to do with the catch and awarding the TD or are you going by the letter of the law in the book and calling the player for illegal participation?
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